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Monday, February 5, 2024

Unlocking the Mysteries of Automotive Diagnostics

Unlocking the Mysteries of Automotive Diagnostics


In the intricate world of modern automotive technology, the ability to diagnose and troubleshoot issues has become an indispensable skill for both mechanics and car enthusiasts. One of the key frameworks governing this diagnostic landscape is the Onboard Diagnostics (OBD) system, specifically the second iteration, OBD-II, which adheres to the standards set by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE).

SAE and OBD-II Standards:

The SAE plays a crucial role in establishing standards that govern automotive diagnostics. In the context of the VW Polo and many other vehicles, OBD-II is the standardized system designed to monitor and report the performance of various vehicle systems, ensuring compliance with emission regulations.

Stoichiometry and Emission Control:

Understanding stoichiometry is fundamental to comprehending OBD-II's role in emission control. Stoichiometry refers to the chemically balanced ratio of air to fuel necessary for complete combustion. OBD-II monitors this ratio through sensors, with the Oxygen Sensor System (OXS) playing a pivotal role in providing feedback to the engine control module (ECM).

EPC Light - Electronic Power Control:

One of the telltale indicators of an issue within the electronic realm of the VW Polo is the Electronic Power Control (EPC) light. This warning light illuminates when the system detects a fault affecting the engine's performance. The EPC system is responsible for managing the throttle, ensuring optimal power delivery and efficiency.


Universal OBD-II tester


Check Engine Light and DTC Codes:

The infamous Check Engine Light (CEL) is another beacon of concern for drivers. When illuminated, it signals potential issues with the engine or emissions system. Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC), communicated through the OBD-II system, provide mechanics with specific information about the nature of the problem, allowing for a targeted and efficient diagnosis.

Limp Mode and Safety Features:

In the event of a critical issue, the VW Polo employs a safety feature known as Limp Mode. This mode restricts the vehicle's performance to prevent further damage, allowing the driver to reach a service center safely. Understanding the triggers for Limp Mode requires decoding the specific DTCs stored in the OBD-II system.

Sensors, Senders, and Actuators:

Central to the OBD-II system are an array of sensors and senders strategically placed throughout the vehicle. These components, such as the Oxygen Sensor, monitor various parameters and relay information to the ECM. Actuators, controlled by the ECM, respond to these inputs by adjusting engine functions to maintain optimal performance and emissions.

16-Pin OBD-II Connector:

Mechanics rely on the 16-pin OBD-II connector to interface with the vehicle's diagnostic system. This standardized connector provides access to the wealth of information stored within the OBD-II system, facilitating precise diagnosis and troubleshooting.

Automotive Acronyms:

Navigating the world of automotive diagnostics often involves deciphering a myriad of acronyms. From EPC to DTC,to HVAC, to OXS, to EGR and beyond, mechanics adeptly use these shorthand terms to  efficiently communicate and clients and pinpoint issues with precision.However, it can confuse the hell out of them.

Delving into the realm of automotive diagnostics for the VW Polo unveils a sophisticated interplay of technologies governed by SAE standards and OBD-II protocols. Mastery of these systems empowers mechanics to unravel complexities, ensuring optimal performance and emission control for vehicles on the road. 

As technology continues to advance, a deep understanding of automotive acronyms and diagnostic intricacies remains paramount for those entrusted with keeping our vehicles running smoothly. However, it would be feasible even advisable for vehicle owners to get get up to speed with Automotive technology. Technology is here to stay and no matter how hard we try, cannot will it away.



Wednesday, August 24, 2022

That EPC light

That EPC light.

The most likely reason you're reading this blog post, is because you encountered an EPC fault with your Volkswagen vehicle. I bet you wondered what that yellow/orange light was when it lit-up or perhaps startled when you car went into "limp mode". Whether you're driving a VW Polo or VW Jetta, VW Golf,  VW Caddy, VW Passat, T-Cross, Sharan, Touareg, Transporter, or any other Volkswagen or even a German Audi, or a Czech Skoda or a Spanish VW SEAT, you've come to the right place because they all have an  Electronic Power Control circuit. 



In fact all "modern day" vehicles have EPC circuit, which loudly says that the automotive industry have finally reached some consensus on standardization. But let me tell you what the EPC light actually is. It's just a signal light informing you that there is an error in your vehicles torque circuit. That's the short answer, however, I can tell by the look on your face that it wasn't a  satisfactory answer, so let me give you the long version.

The EPC light is part of the Electronic Power Control Circuit which is just one of the components of OBD-II which was mandated by a certain regulatory bodies with regulatory intent. Their initial intention was to limit carbon emissions / exhaust fumes from cars on the street of America. 

The California Air Resources Board (CARB) and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) together with the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) and the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) collectively originated the On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) System because of high levels of smog produced by automobiles throughout the USA.  

Their initial On-Board Diagnostic System was subsequently superseded by the all new and improved verion OBD-II, hence all cars manufactured post 1996 has an Electronic Power Control Circuit and by extension an EPC light. The European on-board diagnostics (EOBD) regulations are the European equivalent of the American OBD-II. 

On-Board Diagnostic (OBD-II) is an automotive mechatronic, micro processor / micro controller based computer system with programmed presets that continuously monitors inputs from numerous sensors fitted through the car. 

It then computes/compares/ compensates these inputs against stored data and drives various actuators to perform certain tasks. In a nutshell OBD-II is an input/output (I/O) information processing system much like the PC / laptop / or even your smart phone. By example, a keyboard, a mouse, a joystick, a scanner and a microphone are common computer input devices whereas a HD monitor, a printer, speakers and headphones are common computer output devices. 

Here the computer/laptop makes calculations based on its internal operating system and software to do something intelligible for humans. However in the case of OBD-II, its CPU (Central Processing Unit) is called an ECU (Electronic Control Unit) and among its input sensors are the Accelerator Position Sensor, Mass Air Flow sensor (MAF), Lambda O2 Sensor, Knock sensor, Oli level sensor, Coolant Temperature Sensor, the Camshaft Position Sensor, the Crank Position Sensor, the Wheel Speed  Sensor etc, to mention but a few.

Among its output actuators and solenoids are the drive-by-wire electronic throttle actuator, the fuel injectors, the EPC light, Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL), the Immobilizer, the Airbags and the Power Steering Pump, etc, again to mention but a few,

This ECU is sometimes referred to as an Engine Control Unit especially when intending to make reference to the TCU (Transmission Control Unit). The ECU is sometimes even called ECM (Engine Control Module) when making reference to other electronic control modules like the ABS module, the Instruments module, the Central Electronics Module, the CAN gateway module, the Radio Module, etc, again to mention but a few 

However, the ECU and the TCU are collectively referred to as Powertrain Control Module (PCM). The ECM essentially controls the efficiency of the engine performance by using a Crankshaft Position Sensor to determine the position of the cams in order to activate the injection of fuel into the cylinders and the timing of the ignition spark to ignite it at precisely the correct moment in petrol engines. 

Likewise the ECM in Diesel engines, plays a huge role in the success of the turbodiesel models. But in order for this to happen, an electronic throttle control had to be introduced, replacing the  cable from the pedal to the carburetor system which was prone to idle speed deviation between a hot and cold engine that became more and more prevalent as the components wore out. 

In so doing, the ECM can adjust the electronic throttle angle during acceleration to achieve the right quantitative relationship ratio between the actual airflow through the engine and the injected fuel thus maintaining Stoichiometry. Controlling the throttle airflow on the fly, markedly improves overall torque and driveability which is known as torque-mapping, an advantage that is only possible with drive-by-wire. 

So, the Electronic Power Control Circuit consists of the ECM, the Accelerator Position Sensor, the Throttle Position Sensors, the Throttle Actuator, the MAF / Air Filter, the Fuel Injectors, the High Pressure Fuel Pump, Fuel Temperature Sensor, Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor and Pressure Relief Valve. 

The single accelerator position sensor is made up of two individual potentiometers each acting independently of the other but collectively operate with opposite polarity voltages supplied by the ECM, as a safety back-up for one another. 

Thus, if either potentiometer fails, the ECM will activate limp mode. This is a safety measure that prevents the system from acting as if it had an accelerator cable that got stuck in the runaway position and the makings of a potential accident. The cruise control also has influence on the throttle body and requires the brake pedal to be depressed to cancel the cruise control. 

The ECU normally takes this cancellation signal from the brake light MOSFET low-side driver in the ECU. So either the brake pedal switch and the a brake light bulb can cause an EPC error along with the aforementioned fuel supply components. It's best to have a diagnostic tester to check for DTC errors via the DLC connector. It would at the very least steer you in the right direction to fix your EPC problem effectively.

Electronic Power Control (EPC)

Electronic Power Control (EPC)

It was very surprising to discover how many thousands if not millions of car owners out there, have no idea exactly what  Electronic Power Control (EPCis. Yet most of them would like to know what the Electronic Power Control (EPC) circuit really does , more especially the Volkswagen, Audi, Seat and Soda owners. 

Considering they've been plagued by the Electronic Power Control (EPC) light, limp mode, DTC errors and poor engine performance to the point of frustration and panic for a number of years. Nobody seems to be able to give them good advice or practical guidance; and in many cases not even the Volkswagen, Audi, Seat and Skoda agents can. 

Leaving VW owners confounded, disappointed and disillusioned by their choice in cars, which results in so many car owners swearing, never to invest in VW brands ever again.

Unscrupulous motor mechanics tend to take advantage of these situations, recommending that the car owner brings their car to them as soon as possible before damage occurs to the engine.  Whereas in fact, the Electronic Power Control (EPC) is a safety circuit designed to prevent damage to the engine. 

When the  Electronic Power Control (EPC) mode does engage, it can and often does affect the car's stability and cruise control and torque circuit giving the impression there is a lot more wrong than there actually is. 

Since the Electronic Power Control (EPC) is "yellow" and not red, it acts more as an advisory light rather than a warning light, even though everybody tends to call it a warning light. A  flashing amber light is considered a "warning signal" but still doesn't have the danger status of "red warning light"

 


Technically the "yellow" Electronic Power Control (EPC) light is in fact  amber which is a blend between orange and yellow. Car dashboard light colours can be roughly divided into three categories. 

Warning lights are Red in colour. Advisory lights are  amber in colour and information lights are generally either white, green or blue in colour. Having said that, its simple to understand that amber implies that you should keep an eye on, or be prepared for either  a reduction in power or  interruption to power.

Hence, Amber lights are used as Indicator lights (flashers) on cars for the turn signal and hazards. Amber lights are also used by roadside breakdown vehicles to alert drivers. An amber traffic light is generally considered a cautionary light, signalling  readiness to stop. Much like an amber  traffic light does. 

Now that you know what the colours of the lights imply, allow me to give you the low-down on Electronic Power Control (EPCitself. EPC is an acronym and it is the official abbreviation for Electronic Power Control

Electronic Power Control is an embeded system, specifically designed into electronic circuits that permits it be part of a larger electro-mechanical system.  An Electronic Power Control system can also simply be described as a self-contained "feedback" circuit.  

It can even be further  explained, as a microprocessor based electronic circuit -or a computer if you like- that alters its output bias based on its inputs. Its "status quo" or current baseline is taken as a reference point and the objective is to control its operation within its predetermined parameters, and as close as possible to the said baseline, based on the signals from its inputs. 

Should any of these inputs, that predominantly come from sensors fail, for whatsoever reason, the computer circuit wouldn't be unable to complete its processes and would either enter into a "compensatory state"a "warning state" or an "error state"But more about this later!

The Electronic Power Control circuit has become standard equipment as part of the OBD-II (On-board Diagnostics 2) system in all modern day cars, manufactured since 1996. The Electronic Power Control is an integral part of every computerized ignition and engine management system, embedded into the ECU (elcectronic computer unit). 

The Electronic Power Control (EPC) dashboard advisory light is also part of this system and is normally activated by errors in the vehicle's torque circuit but not exclusively. The Electronic Power Control (EPC) light is  actually  "new" addition to the plethora of light on the more modern vehicle's dashboards, a light  that gives any driver a sense of despair when it turns on. 

But more about that later ...

However, since a full blown explanation is outside the scope of a single blog-post, it is imperative that you need to read  every blog installment or the entire blog to get the full Electronic Power Control (EPC) picture.

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Annoying VW EPC light

VW EPC expounded

As I've explained in an earlier blog, the amber Electronic Power Control warning light on your car's instrument cluster, is just an indicator light; drawing your attention to either (1)  an Auto-Correct EPC Problem, (2) a Pending EPC Problem, (3) an Existing EPC Problem or  (4) a Current EPC Problem. 

An Auto-Correcting  EPC problem occurs when the EPC light goes on without noticeable difference in engine performance and goes off during subsequent drive cycles which may be within a day or two or longer.

A Pending EPC Problem could be something as simple as a spark plug misfiring intermittently and appears in the scan list but after a while becomes an Auto-Correcting EPC problem alternatively if the plug continues to misfire it becomes and Exising EPC problem.

An Existing EPC Problem could be something like the MAF sensor or a accelerator pedal sensor that needs cleaning or replacement and a Current EPC Problem normally results in limp mode.



EPC light is bright YELLOW/AMBER and acts as a indicator, it is not as a warning light. 
Warning light are always RED.

EPC light is bright YELLOW/AMBER and acts as a indicator light, an advisory light; it is not as a warning light.  Warning light are always RED. Since the ECU "learns your driving style" over time, it records your optimize drive cycles to non-volatile memory along with atmospheric pressure, min & max rpm and the average fuel use data, etc, then creates an adaptive pattern or map based on these parameters. 

When this map is compared to sudden spirited driving, it may trigger the EPC light but will auto-correct (reset) itself after a few driving cycles within a day or two. Sometimes the EPC light may be accompanied by the Check Engine Light (CEL).

A Pending Problem can cause the EPC light to come and not switch off on its own. Pending implies that the problem will only get worse if left unattended to. A diagnostic scanner is needed to view the DTC error, hence its really worthwhile investing in one. 

For example, assume that cylinder number 3 randomly misfired a few times as the pending problem. The scan freeze frame data will show something like this.

000771 - Cylinder 3
               P0303 - 000 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 38187 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.11.05
                    Time: 21:09:58


             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 758 /min
                    Load: 13.1 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 51.0°C
                    Temperature: 33.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 830.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.435 V


What this means is that cylinder misfired 7 time, and that the most recent misfire occurred at the displayed time and date highlighted in red and has a fault priority of 2.  Fault priority of 4 or lower needs to be attended to immediately since it affects the driveability of the car. Don't ignore the VW EPC light.  

Fault priority of 5 and above doesn't require immediate attention but must be attended to sooner rather than later. The freeze frame date shows that the car was idling and 758 rpm with the speed at 0 kph and that the engine hasn't reach its optimum operating temperature as yet. In a nutshell, freeze frame captures the engine operating conditions at the time when the EPC error occurred.

An Existing EPC Problem could  mean either the throttle pedal, throttle body, or brake control unit or any other circuit related to the torque circuit, like the  cruise control unit or the traction control unit is misbehaving.  However the EPC light can also indicated an unrelated problem like a loose fuel cap. With the EPC light on, and a pungent fuel smell inside the cockpit would point you to fuel cap.  

Since the fuel is under pressure, the fuel pump, fuel regulator or fuel rail pressure sensor may also be suspect, each should be excluded through a process of elimination. Remember the Electronic Power Control system is integrated with several other systems on you vehicle, like the steering control unit and the ECU, hence it's not always easy to diagnose.

Its permissible to  drive your VW for a short distances and for a short period of time after the EPC light has triggered, that's to say if driveability hasn't been impaired but its best to either fix it yourself or take it to  VW service center. An  EPC dashboard light can be caused by any of the following, but in no particular order. Sometimes both the EPC light and CEL (check engine light) would turn on.

1) Brake Light Switch failure
2) Mass Air Flow Sensor failure 
3) Engine Speed Sensor failure 
4) Throttle System Potentiometer Failure
5) Cruise Control failure
6) Accelerator Pedal Potentiometer failure
7) Repeated cylinder misfires
8) Loose fuel cap
9) Blown / Faulty  brake light

Any of these can and may cause your vehicle to go into “limp mode” which can be described as a Current EPC Problem. When limp mode strikes, the Engine Control Unit will limits the functions of the torque circuit and transmission thus prevent your VW's engine from  revving higher than 2000 rpm and limit its speed to 30-45 kpm. 

Some mechanics would reset the EPC light by cleasing the DTC list without fixing the actual problem but this is not recommended. When the  Diagnostic trouble codes (DTC) are cleared,  "your driving style" map is also deleted, meaning that the ECU would have to relearn  "your driving style"  from scratch and your VW's performance may seem a bit off.  That's to say, until your racked up sufficient drive cycles (data) with which the ECU can do an analysis in real time. 

Thursday, February 24, 2022

The Most Common Car Problems

The Most Common Car Problems

There was a time when car owners could easily service their own cars. Simply replacing points, plugs and condensors,  draining its oil and replacing its oil and oil filter normally put the car back on the road again. Those were the days when the most common roadside problem was a puncture or a snapped fan belt. Punctures were easily fixed with a replacement tyre from the trunk. All that was needed was some elbow grease applied to the jack, wheel brace and wheel nuts and you were on the road again. But today rollbacks are are integral part of motoring. Hundreds of cars are loaded up everyday on the road side.


VW Polo on a roll back going to workshop


The main cause of punctures was attributed to poor road surfaces, random metal objects and broken glass and to a lesser degree older tyre technology. Even though punctures were predominant, they were by no means exclusive to roadside breakdown because clutch plates and gearbox problems were also plentiful, as was running out of fuel.


Volkswagen Polo on a roll back

With the advent of newer cars, the race for the most fuel efficient and least expensive car was on. When fuel and air stoichiometrics were at its peak, car manufactures started producing cars with a 'Space Saver Biscuit Spare Wheel' which took several kilograms of weight out of the trunk, This made the car a tad lighter, slightly more fuel efficient and ever so slightly, cheaper to produce.

Today, almost a third of all new cars don't even have a spare wheel; instead they may be equipped with a can of self inflating puncture-repairing foam, or an electrical air compressor with some sealant kit to temporarily fix a flat tyre. Both options are evidently cheaper than a Space Saver Biscuit Spare Wheel and lighter.



However, believe-it-or-not, the more expensive cars today, are sold without  a spare wheel, instead they are fitted with “run-flats”. In a nut-shell, run flats are special pneumatic tyres, designed to resist the effects of deflation when punctured, yet enables the car to  be driven at reduced speeds of under 90 km/h for a distance of up to 80 km. The speed and distance of course to the nearest tyre repair shop, is subject to the type and quality of the run-flats.  So, once again the manufacturer saves the cost of supplying a spare wheel.

Car on rollback

Be that as it may, snapped fan belts  often causing the engine to overheat, sometimes resulted in a  blown  cylinder head gasket. Subsequently, the modern day electric radiator fan has totally supperceeded the belt driven fan and as a result, burst radiator hoses, corroded, leaking water pumps and welch plugs have  became the primary cause  of blown cylinder head gaskets. The other bugbear is oil leaks that weren't timeously attended to, currently trending as the most common cause of seized engines. 

With the abundance of electronics fitted into cars, the alternator  and its voltage regulator have  became a lot more more troublesome than ever before. Obviously due to the additional electrical load.  Alternator  problems are closely followed by starter issues when either its brushes or its  bendix reaches its end of life.   



Both types of problems have resulted in batteries being replaced prematurely and sometimes unnecessarily. Brakes and Turbos also give their fair share of problems, but none of these problems comes close to the new type of roadside breakdowns caused by the OBD-II system.

The most common cause of  breakdowns today, is the Electronic Power Control (EPC) light; not that the light is the cause of the problem. The Electronic Power Control (EPC) light is only an advisory light, drawing your attention to a possible malfunction or  pending problem or  already existing problems.



When the Electronic Power Control (EPC) light comes on, without the ESP or Check  engine light, the car is normally still driveable, even if it goes into limp mode. But when accompanied by the ESP and or CEL (check engine light) the car may refuse to start as its inhibited by the Electronic Computer Unit (ECU). 

When this happens, the only solution is to secure a rollback to fetch the car and take it either to your service agent / mechanic or your home, so that you can tend to the problem yourself. 

There is no way you'd be able to effect repairs to your car yourself without a OBD II scanner   that would direct you to, or confine your repair to a certain area of the engine. 

ODB-II problems not limited to VW.

Below are a few sample yet partial ODB II diagnostic scans  for Electronic Power Control (EPC) problems. 

This for a 7N0 - VW Passat.
Address 01: Engine (CDL)       Labels: 06F-907-115-CDL.clb
   Part No SW: 1P0 907 115 AB    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
   Revision: 5BH20---    Serial number: 0000              
   Coding: 0303004C18070160

1 Fault Found:
008487 - Accelerator Position Sensor 2 (G185) 

               P2127 - 002 - Signal too Low


Electronic Power Control (EPC) problem  for a 1J - VW Golf.

Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 032 RN
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0001 
Coding: 07510

18047 - Accelerator Position Sensor 1/2 (G79/G185) 
            P1639 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
18042 - Accelerator Position Sensor 2 (G185) 

            P1634 - 35-10 - Signal too High - Intermittent



Electronic Power Control (EPC) problem  for a 7L - VW Touareg 

Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09D-927-750.lbl
   Part No: 09D 927 750 AN
   Component: AL 750 6A           0546  
   Coding: 0004153


1 Fault Found:
00777 - Accelerator Position Sensor (G79) 

            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON


NB! The Automatic Transmission module and not the Engine Module detected this accelerator sensor problem.

 


Electronic Power Control (EPC) problem 1H - VW Golf/Vento III
Address 02: Auto Trans       Labels: 01M-927-733.LBL
   Controller: 01M 927 733 CT
   Component: AG4 Getriebe 01M    3363
   Coding: 00000
    

1 Fault Found:
00518 - Throttle Position Sensor (G69)

            16-10 - Signal Outside Specifications - Intermittent


NB! The Automatic Transmission module and not the Engine Module detected this accelerator sensor problem. Here the Throttle position sensor instead of the Accelerator sender is the cause of the problem.


Electronic Power Control (EPC) problem  for a 9M - VW Jetta IV.
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 032 RN
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0001 
Coding: 07510

1 Fault Found:
18047 - Accelerator Position Sensor 1/2 (G79/G185

P1639 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal 



Electronic Power Control (EPC) problem  for a 8E - Audi A4.
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06C-909-559-ASN.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 909 559 D HW: 8E0 909 059 
Component: JHM V3/9X G 0003 
Coding: 0016751

2 Faults Found:
18047 - Accelerator Position Sensor 1/2 (G79/G185) 
P1639 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
18047 - Accelerator Position Sensor 1/2 (G79/G185) 

P1639 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent - MIL ON



Electronic Power Control (EPC)  for a 8P - Audi A3.
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-033-BGU.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 033 DS
Component: SIMOS71 1.6l 2V 5559 
Revision: --H03--- Serial number: AUX00000
Coding: 0000071

4 Faults Found:
18047 - Accelerator Position Sensor 1/2 (G79/G185)

P1639 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent



Electronic Power Control (EPC) problem  for a 9M - VW Jetta IV


Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 032 LP
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0005 
Coding: 07500

18042 - Accelerator Position Sensor 2 (G185) 
P1634 - 35-00 - Signal too High
18039 - Accelerator Position Sensor (G79) 

P1631 - 35-00 - Signal too High



 Electronic Power Control (EPC) problem  for a 1C - VW New Beetle

Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01M-927-733.lbl
Part No: 01M 927 733 EN
Component: AG4 Getriebe 01M 4108
Coding: 00000

1 Fault Found:
00518 - Throttle Position Sensor (G69)

16-10 - Signal Outside Specifications - Intermittent

NB! Once again the Automatic Transmission module  detected this Throttle position sensor instead of the Engine Module detecting the Accelerator sender to be the cause of the problem.

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As can be seen from the data above,  there are essentially 3 types of  DTC errors responsible for triggering the EPC light, though not exclusively. P codes  P1630 and P2122;  P1631 and P2123;  P1632 and P1861 are essentially the same and applies to sender 1. 

As can be seen below.
P1633 and  P2127;  P1634 and P2128; P1639 and P2138 are essentially the same but applies to sender 2. There are also several other DTC errors that can and trigger the EPC and or along with the ESP, and or with the CEL.

Accelerator Pedal Sensor 1

P1630 - Accelerator Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79), Signal too Low
P1631 - Accelerator Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79), Signal too High
P1632 - Accelerator Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79), Power Supply Malfunction

P2122 - Accelerator Pos. Sensor 1 (G79), Signal too Low
P2123 - Accelerator Pos. Sensor 1 (G79), Signal too High
P1861 - Accelerator Pos. Sensor 1 (G79), Error Message from ECM

Accelerator Pedal Sensor  2

P1633 - Accelerator Pedal Pos. Sensor 2 (G185), Signal too Low
P1634 - Accelerator Pedal Pos. Sensor 2 (G185), Signal too High
P1639 - Accelerator Pedal Pos. Sensor 1/2 (G79) / (G185), Implausible Signal

P2127 - Accelerator Pos. Sensor 2 (G185), Signal too Low
P2128 - Accelerator Pos. Sensor 2 (G185), Signal too High
P2138 - Accelerator Pos. Sensor 1/2 (G79) + (G185), Implausible Signal

Throttle Position Sensor

16505/P0121/000289 - TPS (G69): Implausible Signal
16506/P0122/000290 - TPS (G69): Signal too Low
16507/P0123/000291 - TPS (G69): Signal too High

Throttle Angle Sender 1

17950/P1542/005442 = Angle Sensor 1 for Throttle Actuator (G187): Implausible Signal
17951/P1543/005443 = Angle Sensor 1 for Throttle Actuator (G187): Signal too Small
17952/P1544/005444 = Angle Sensor 1 for Throttle Actuator (G187): Signal too High 
 

Throttle Angle Sender 2

16605/P0221/000545 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle (G188): Signal   Implausible 
16606/P0222/000546 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle (G188): Signal Too Low
16607/P0223/000547 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle (G188): Signal Too High


Depending on the model of your vehicle, its Throttle position sensor (TPS) lowest output voltage should be around .17 Volt and when the Electronic Control Unit (ECU) detects that it has dropped below that, then it will trigger either a P0122 or P0222 code.  High signals are not common but they do occur. 

 

As can be seen from the above data the error signal is either too low or to high or intermittent/implausable. Bearing in mind that a constant 5 volts is supplied by the ECU via a High-side or Low-side driver to the each of these potentiometers (senders). Loss of the voltage or even intermittently loss will trigger the EPC light and enter into "limp mode".

By implication  the monitored output is in 1 of 3 states, viz, low, high, or intermittent. In order to determine these states, the ECU needs a reference to compare these signals against. Each sender therefore act as a reference for another and any discrepancy between the two can result in an EPC error and subsequent limp mode. 

Replacing the Accelerator Pedal sensor (potentiometer)  unit normally fixes the EPC problem, but limp mode can also be caused by the throttle butterfly potentiometer.  And like I mentioned before, an OBD-II diagnostic tester would make this repair a lot easier and a lot faster.


NB! When your car goes into "limp mode", you may have  a lit   "Engine Management Light" (EPC icon) and or a "Electronic Stability Light" (skidding car icon) and or a "Engine Control Lamp" (engine icon) or any other combination thereof.  


Even Earthworks machinery are fitted with OBD-II so that exhaust emissions can be controlled but when there is a problem in the OBD-II system, invariable these machines would have to go on a roll back and taken for repair.

 

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Tuesday, January 4, 2022

Common OBD-II problems

Common OBD-II Problems

OBD-II has now been in our faces for a "Quarter Century" and even though it works fairly efficiently to control the hydro-carbon emissions in post '96 vehicles to some degree, it isn't as effective as some people would've liked, in terms of its diagnostic accuracy or as transparent and simplistic in its use to aid the layman.  On the flip side, many people with several mechanics among them completely abhors OBD-II and sees it more as a hindrance that a help and even add that they prefer cars not to have OBD-II. Since its inception, OBD-II has stymied mechanics globally, especially when the OBD-II system shuts down the engine and turns on the  EPC Light or Check Engine Light. And today, some 25 years later most car owners and mechanics still suffer fits effects yet endure the wrath of OBD-II. However, regardless of what we as lay people say, OBD-II is here to stay and we cannot wish it or will it away. 

Genuine Volkswagen Audi - Harness - 1KD971658
Genuine Volkswagen / Audi Harness Mfg Part #: 1KD971658

Personally I think OBD-II is a great in all aspects and incarnations however it has its drawbacks. OBD-II  does place car owners at a huge disadvantage and at risk when it fails. Purely because the problems are not evident but rather masked by the mysteries of electronics technology. This very often leaves them stranded and in a dangerous situations when stuck in the middle of nowhere. With the result that even the DIY car owners cannot do any repair work themselves, but have to resort to phoning  a salvage company to come  load their vehicle onto  a rollback.  Unless of course they have previously invested in a OBD-II scanner  and is able to check for DTC error codes.  But as the saying goes, "most people only lock the stable after the horse has bolted". 

Another drawback of OBD-II is that since car owners in general do not own diagnostic scanners; so they have to rely on some mechanic workshop or mechanical to tell them what problems they've encountered with their vehicle but only once its repaired. Considering most mechanics / repair shops repair OBD-II errors by substituting parts until the cause of the problem is  solved. Merely because they don't even understand the workings of OBD-II well enough to pinpoint problems with any great success. For most of us, this type of hit-&-miss approach comes as an un-bugeted expense, which most car owners can ill-afford especially after having to pay the exorbitant rollback cost.

I believe there are thousands more vehicle owners today, interested in their own vehicle's maintenance and there are even more inclined towards DIY repairs than ever before because of ODB-II. Their motivating factor being the high cost of automotive repairs vs the low cost of ODB-II diagnostic scanners. Albeit that the lower cost scanners bordering on cheap doesn't do such a fantastic diagnostic scan as their more expensive counter parts. 

NEW GENERATION CARS

Hopefully, the next generation of automobiles will be released with onboard diagnostic scanners incorporated directly into the vehicle's infotainment system. Seeing that these fancy units are comprised of  several discrete devices built into the same platform.  It's quite common for the average touch screen infotainment systems to have features ranging from  Built-in Bluetooth to Built-in WIFI which supports WiFi hot-spot broadcasting. Integrated phone connectivity for calls. Some even have rear view camera support. 

Others have fully fledged full-format 1080P video decoding, and USB functionality with multi-format audio and multi-band radio, coupled to dedicated dual voice-coil subwoofer and surround sound speakers. Not to mention Internet APP download capability.  Some include mirror and link for both Android and IOS Phones and a Global Positioning System (GPS) for navigation. All thanks to the magic of powerful multi-core processors and microprocessor embedded systems. 

I'd say adding an OBD-II scanner in place of one of these gadgets would be more beneficial 
So, throwing in a pretty decent quality OBD-II scanner into such a menagerie of tech wouldn't be such a biggie for car manufacturers and the cost wouldn't be prohibitively expensive either.  But since we not at that point in automotive evolution as yet, most DIY car owners have to rely on the handheld / smartphone diagnostics to scan their cars. 

Be that as it may. Very fortunately there are some common fault lists that would prevent you from having to go buy an expensive OBD-II scanner or go through the agony and trauma of having your car fixed by trial and error. Sharing  common automotive problems for the benefit of other, who are bound to experience the exact same problems in the very near future is a godsend.  Same model cars tend to have the same problems as others but invariable and inevitably those components will fail because obsolescence was part of its initial design. The same components used different model cars tend to fail in the same way and cause the same problems.

We've found that the most common OBD-II problems are associated with misfiring engine cylinders, problematic exhaust Gate Reticulation system (EGR), Oxygen Sensor (O2), Electrical Harnesses and fault Catalytic Converters. Many car owners are decating their diesel models, claiming better performance. But since OBD-II was explicitly introduced to control and reduce carbon emissions, removing it is not such a great idea. 

Genuine Volkswagen Audi  Harness - 1KD971658
VW / Audi Harness ES#: ES2993475  
 

COMMON FAULTS 

Erratically idling, or misfiring of bucking or  car goes into limp mode or starts and cuts out all result any one or more of the following error codes:-

P0105 - Manifold Absolute Pressure / Barometric Pressure Voltage supply
P0106 - Manifold Absolute Pressure / Barometric Pressure out of range 
P0107 - Manifold Absolute Pressure / Barometric Pressure Low Input
P0108 - Manifold Absolute Pressure / Barometric Pressure High Input
P0234 - Turbocharger Overboost Condition Control limit exceeded
P0235 - Turbocharger Boost Sensor (A) Control circuit  limit not reached
P0236 - Turbocharger Boost Sensor (A) circuit  out of range
P0237 - Turbocharger Boost Sensor (A) circuit  Low Input
P0238 - Turbocharger Boost Sensor (A) circuit  High Input
P0243 - Turbocharger Wastegate Solenoid (A) Open/Short Circuit to Ground
P0245 - Turbocharger Wastegate Solenoid (A) Low Input/Short to ground
P0246 - Turbocharger Wastegate Solenoid (A) High Input/Short to B+
P1154 - Manifold Switch Over Malfunction
P1155 - Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit Short to B+
P1156 - Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit Open/Short to Ground
P1157 - Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit Power Supply Malfunction
P1158 - Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit  out of range
P1400 - EGR Valve Circuit  Electrical Malfunction
P1401 - EGR Valve Circuit  Short to Ground
P1402 - EGR Valve Circuit  Short to B+
P1403 - EGR Flow Deviation
P1404 - EGR Flow Basic Setting not carried out
P1406 - EGR Temperature Sensor Performance range
P1407 - EGR Temperature Sensor Signal too Low
P1408 - EGR Temperature Sensor Signal too High
P1511 - Intake Manifold Changeover Valve - Electrical circuit malfunction
P1512 - Intake Manifold Changeover Valve Short circuit to B+
P1513 - Intake Manifold Changeover Valve2 Short circuit to B+
P1514 - Intake Manifold Changeover Valve2 Short circuit to ground
P1515 - Intake Manifold Changeover Valve Short circuit to ground
P1516 - Intake Manifold Changeover Valve - Open circuit 
P1520 - Intake Manifold Changeover Valve2 - Open circuit 
P1521 - Intake Manifold Changeover Valve2 electrical circuit malfunction
P1553 - Barometric/manifold pressure signal ratio out of range

Polo Highline 1.9 TDI (9N) 2005
16621 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31): Signal too Low
P0237 - 000 - -

Audi A5 (8T0) 2012 
4166 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31)
P0238 00 [039] - Signal too High

Audi TT 1.8L R4/5VT 
16622 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31): Signal too High
0238 - 35-00 - 

000568 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31): Signal too High
P0238 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON

Passat 2.0T R4/4V TFSI 2006 
000568 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31): Signal too High
P0238 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON

VW Touran 1.9 TDI
P0236 - Manifold Pressure/Boost Sensor (G31) - Range/Performance Problem/Implausible Signal
Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL)(K83) active.

VW Golf 7 1.6TDI 
16622 (P0238 ) - Manifold Pressure/Boost Sensor (G31): Signal too High
16618 (P0234) - Boost Pressure Regulation: Limit Exceeded (Overboost Condition)

Passat 2.0T R4/4V TFSI 2006 
004759 - Pressure Drop between Turbo and Throttle Valve
P1297 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded

This MAP Manifold Pressure Sensor aka Boost Sensor aka Thrust sensor  aka G31 is just a  thermistor. Essentially a resistor of a special kind, with the ability to change its resistance  subject to its surrounding temperature, hence the term thermistor is just a  word combination of "thermal" and "resistor".  However G31 sensor may not be fault but rather the wiring harness. Due to the constant engine heat, the harness wiring gets hard and becomes brittle resulting in poor contact, short and open circuits. 

FYI - Thermistors essentially come in two varieties, viz NTC (negative temperature coefficient) and a PTC (positive temperature coefficient). You can quite simply use an ohmmeter to measure the resistance of the thermistor. Then by bringing a hot soldering iron  tip close to the thermistor, its resistance would change in response to the soldering iron's radiated heat. When the resistance increases its a PTC and an NTC when the resistance decreases.  Much like discrete component resistors that are colour coded, thermistors leads are also colour coded which identifies the temperature range they operate at.

CATALYTIC CONVERTER

Catalytic Converter have become a hot topic of late. Thieves are stealing Catalytic converters from parked cars at night. However the Polo Highline 1.9 TDI is known to be troublesome. The main reason for  this being, use of poor quality diesel (500ppm as opposed to 50ppm or even 5ppm) and irregular oil changes  which caused soot build-up to block the performance of the catalytic converter, which in turn may lead to turbo failure.  So its fair to say that it's  not uncommon to remove/replace blocked catalytic converters  to prolong the life of the turbo itself.

However if it's not the Catalytic converter itself causing the above error,  it very possibly not the sensor either even though the diagnostic software may indicate that.  I'd say rather check, repair or replace the wiring harness to the Boost Pressure Sensor (G31) and also check wiring to the Intake Air Temperature Sensor (G42).  See my previous blog post https://volkswagen-polo-highline.blogspot.com/2015/03/wiring-harness-issues.html 

The diagnostic scanners may also thow the following errors in conjunction with the error above,  which could be caused by a leak in Air Intake and or Exhaust

16490 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96): Implausible Signal
P0106 - 35-00 - -

18000 - Altitude Sensor / Boost Pressure Sensor: Implausible Correlation
P1592 - 000 - -

Diesel engines are quite different from petrol engines in the sense that  the diesel engine is not variable in speed or power by controlling the air entering the engine as we do with the  throttle body in petrol styled engines. Feedback from Catalytic converter in petrol engines are also used to adjust the short term and long term fuel trim. Implying that petrol cars also have turbo boost errors due to the cat and intake and exhaust sensors.

16485 / P0101 Mass Air Flow Sensor (MAF) (G70) = Circuit Signal Implausible (out of range)
16497 / P0113 Intake Air Temperature  Sensor-1 (G42) = Signal too High
16515 / P0131 O2 (Lambda) sensor low voltage =  Bank-1 Low Voltage
16584 / P0200 Injector circuit =   Injector Circuit electrical fault
16620 / P0236 Turbo / Manifold Pressure Boost Sensor (G31) = Signal Implausible (out of range)
16622 / P0238 Turbo / Manifold Pressure Boost Sensor (G31) = Signal too High
16683 / P0299 Turbo Boost Pressure Reg = Control Range not reached (underboost) /mechanical fault
16785 / P0401 Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) = Insufficient Flow (blocked)
17055 / P0671  Glow Plug/Heater Cylinder 1 (Q10)  electrical fault, open circuit 

17958 / P1550 code = Charge Pressure Control Deviation
Check for air leaks on both intake or exhaust side 
Turbocharger - check for whining engine and exhaust smoke
Charge Air Pressure Sensor faulty  - check connection to one of the the intercooler pipes
Wastegate Regulator N75 Valve  faulty  - Check one of the 3 thin hoses for leaks

18534 / P2102 Throttle  Actuator Control Motor = Signal too Low, check voltage to accelerator pedal 
18675 / P2243 O2  Sensor Reference Voltage Bank 1, open circuit 

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