Friday, November 3, 2017

EPC ELECTRONIC POWER CONTROL

EPC ELECTRONIC POWER CONTROL Q & A

Common causes for EPC warning light illumination

Over the past few weeks numerous questions came pouring in, really fast and furious, most of them at a loss about the EPC light on their vehicles. Below are a few of the VW owner's questions, accompanied by my answers that may have solve their EPC light problems. However, the symptom they present may be similar to your car's symptoms but the cause may not be identical, so therefore the answer may not exactly fit your problem, but it could at least but you the right track. If  you suddenly see the yellow EPC dash board light illuminate on your Volkswagen, Polo, Golf, Kombie, Jetta, Passat etc. don’t panic. 

The EPC light is amer/orange because it's an informational /warning light, whereas a red dashboard light calls for immediate attention, for example when the the oil or water dashboard lights comes on. EPC stands for Electric Power Control (EPC), and  is a computerized ignition and engine management system that can alert you to a potential engine malfunction, as well as alert you to a variety of engine issues, though most of them are fairly simple to diagnose and repair. Bearing  in mind other systems such as stability  control and cruise control can also have an effect on the EPC system.

QUESTION:- 

My VW Golf VI 2010 model shakes when I accelerate, then it suddenly looses power and the EPC light illuminates. Can you please help. What could be the cause of this  and please tell me how to fix it.


ANSWER:-


Most VW engines have a flat-plane crank, meaning the inner two pistons move up and down together, in opposition to the two outer pistons, each providing 90 degree crank propulsion. When one of the cylinders are not doing their portion of the work, the crank is unbalanced and will cause the entire car to shake. This normally happens when either an injector or a coil on one of the cylinders is misfiring. Since the EPC circuit monitors the engine torque, it will illuminates the EPC light when it diagnoses that 25% of its torque is lost. By restoring the 25% torque by replacing the faulty component, either the coil or the injector by a process of elimination, the shaking will stop. 

Then again, I experience severe shaking on my Polo 2.0 one day, for some reason o the other, two blades of he radiator fan  snapped off and the centrifugal force of the two remaining blades shook my entire car really violently. Its the first time I experience something like that and at that moment in time I got such a fright, my heart was pounding in my throat.

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QUESTION:-

I have a Golf Polo 2012 model that's been to the agents for regular diagnostic tests because its been more than a year that they've been trying to resolve the “EPC” light  problem.  The following items have been replaced but the light still comes on -
Ignition coil, Throttle Body, Accelerator pedal, Four injectors
Cambelt kit, RPM sensor .

ANSWER:- 

Since so many components have been replaced, I would suggest you upload a diagnostic scan so that I can analyse it because the above looks like guess work. There are so many things that can trigger the EPC, but don't replace anymore components until you've checked:-

1) The rubber hoses to the MAF for cracks,
2) Cleaned out the tar-like deposits in the throttle body,
3) Cleaned the idle speed control and butterfly valve with Wynn’s Throttle Body and Air Intake Cleaner, 
4) Performed a throttle body adaptation, 
5) Checked that the knock sensors are properly torqued,  
6) Checked for the correct spark gap on your spark plugs, 
7 Checked that your engine temperature coolant sensor works, 
8) Checked that your fuel cap seals properly, 
9) Checked that your fuel pump isn't noisy, because if it is, its probably pumping under the required pressure. 
10) Checked the wiring loom connecting to the pencil coils and the fuel injectors for intermittent contact. 

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QUESTION:-


Please tell me why does my Polo's engine switches off while I'm driving? When I try to accelerate there's no power and when I looked at the dashboard, the  EPC Dashboard Warning Light is on. That's when I realize the engine is not running. But thereafter my Polo wouldn't restart, not until  it cooled for a while. Then my polo will then drive perfectly normal until the next time the EPC light comes on again.

ANSWER:-

This sounds very much like an  Engine Speed Sensor problem. Normally when they do go faulty the car will not start at all.  It is common for the EPC light to come on, by which time the engine died and after about 2 hours everything is back to normal. However its seems like your Polo's sensor is just starting to give trouble. This is a hall sensor, that generates a waveform whenever it senses the rotational magnetic pulse. But when it gets too hot, it starts to fail. I've had hall sensors located inside the distributor go faulty on Opel Kadett GSI due to engine heat in peak hour traffic but after it cools down, the Opel starts and drives normal.  It seems like hall sensors don't like heat.   
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QUESTION:-

I had my Volkswagen cc R-Line's  brake pads replaced after 48,000 kilometers  but now every time when I accelerate the EPC light comes on and there's no power. I'm totally miserable because the car is now useless. Can you please shed any light on this matter?   


ANSWER:-

Dude, its more likely than not that you've picked up a wheel speed sensor problem from your mechanic. One of two things, either the plug to the ABS wheel sensor isn't making good contact / the wire from the sensor is broken off or the gap between the ABS sensor and the disk is wider than it should be. It's very unlikely that the sensors are faulty because it probably worked fine before your mechanic replaced the pads. A telltale sign is that your speedometer isn’t working because the front sensors are also the input for the speedo.

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QUESTION:-


I was cruising on the freeway and suddenly the power just cut out and there was no more acceleration and the EPC light went on. I thaught my VW Jetta ran out of fuel because the fuel gauge was on empty but it didn't because I could still drive it slowly. but it wouldn't revv up.  I took it to the agents who said it was caused by driving with a little fuel in the tank. But now the same thing has happened to me four times thereafter. What can I do because the agents say there is nothing wrong.


ANSWER:-

If truth be told, your intank fuel pump must have overheated when you were driving with an empty tank. Remember the fuel pump is cooled and lubricated by the fuel in the tank and when there is no more fuel to cool and lubricate, the pump can overheat.  Also, if there is debris in the tank, it can block the filter or pipe attached to the pump. Since this is a low pressure pump  it won't have force to clear the debris and wont be able to feed fuel to the high pressure pump driven by the camshaft. It's probably best to have your fuel line cleared under pressure alternatively replace the fuel pump.

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QUESTION:-

I have an Audi A4 with a early model 2.0T engine. For the past few weeks starting from cold in the morning has been a problem but since yesterday, it seems to have lost all power it power and the EPC light is on. With the pedal to the floor in any gear, the rpms increase but the car just won't pickup speed.  

That seem to a common issue with the older Audi A4 models. It's normally the high pressure fuel pump pawl that's busted, which probably destroyed the lobe on the camshaft as well. Sometimes the pressure of the camshaft hollows out and destroys the cylinder head. Check the high pressure at the output of high pressure pump, it it's low then  it's definitely the pump and camshaft combination.


Saturday, September 2, 2017

Volkswagen and Audi EPC

Volkswagen and Audi EPC

The Internet is a huge repository of  information, some useful  and some not so useful, or more to the point, useless. But, there is so much of both, duplicated and reechoed  in posts like auto-facts, axleaddict, youfixcars, and motor forums by so many individuals. There is nothing worst than being led up the garden path by some ignoramus who knows squat about electro-mechanical engineering technology when you are desperately looking for answers. To reduce that from happening, I decides to bust some of the myths related to VAG cars that are being echoed over and over and over.


EPC can be a bitch to repair.

Myth 1
Here's the first myth from someone on Yahoo Answers, relating to a 2012 VW Polo. "You can clear fault codes by disconnecting your battery for a while".  And here's another, "just disconnect the battery on your Audi A3 for a little more than 10 seconds and your fault codes will be  gone"! 

Myth 1 Busted
Though the above is true for pre-1996 vehicles fitted with OBD-I, disconnecting the battery on any car manufactured post-1996 fitted with OBD-II will definitely not delete any fault codes because the ECU stores all DTC (Dignostic Trouble Codes) aka fault codes codes in its  non-volatile memory.  What it will do, is reset the cpu / timer. The term non-volatile memory is generally used for all types of solid state memory, meaning memory that doesn't need its contents refreshed periodically. 

However, the ECU also stores learnt values and basic settings, like for example the Fuel Control Learning Adaptation Values and the Kick-Down Position of the Accelerator which is needed by the automatic transmission. This data and your car's radio code is not stored in non-volatile memory and will undoubtedly be erased when the battery is disconnected.  Once the battery is reconnected, the adaptation process needs to be done which will enable the ECM to learn the new settings for the Drive-by-Wire electronic throttle  valve and store it. If you didn't save the radio code you have to go to a VW / Audi dealer with your VIN and they may be able to give it to you.

When you disconnect your car's battery, the ECU detects the loss of battery power and registers a DTC in the ECU's non-volatile memory to that effect. This record can be seen after the battery is reconnected and a  diagnostic scan is performed.  It would look something like this,

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

Removing the negative terminal of the battery isn't all bad, it does have the advantage  of resetting  the system's ECU safety watchdog timer. A safety watchdog timer (WDT) is responsible for periodically generating a system reset in the event of a software glitch. This one of a kind CIC61508 safety watchdog timer is ASIL-D (Automotive Safety Integrity Level D) approved,  where level D refers to the highest classification of initial hazard against the risk of injury as defined within ISO26262 automotive industry standard.


Infineon Safety Watchdog timer 

Pressure Sensors


Myth 2
There are pressure sensor in the VW and Audi engine block that causes an EPC light to come on and make the car go into limp mode.

Myth 2 bustedYes, there are pressure sensors in both VW and Audi engines but they not fitted into the block and should not be mistaken for than for knock senors that are screwed to the block. Faulty or loose knock sensors can cause the EPC light to come on and send the car into limp mode.  The baro sensor measures the ambient air pressure and has a effect on engine performance altitude dependent.  The supercharger boost pressure is controlled via the regulating flap control unit Intake manifold pressure sensor/MAP sensor (MAP = Manifold Air Pressure) which can cause the EPC light to come on and send the car into limp mode. The high-pressure fuel pump delivers fuel at a pressure of up to 150 bar and any drop in this pressure can cause the EPC light to come on and send the car into limp mode. Common problem with loss of pressure is the fuel filter. Loss of oil pressure can cause the EPC light to come on and send the car into limp mode. Lastly there is high system pressure in the cooling system at high revs and sudden loss of this pressure can cause the EPC light to come on and send the car into limp mode.

Myth 3
EPC light usually means that the Electronic Throttle Body needs replacing and reprogramming.  

Myth 3 busted It is advantages to perform adaptation on the throttle body, before attempting to replace it with a new throttle body . Often times replacing it makes no difference and normally turn out to be the wiring harness connectors to the throttle body that's defective.   Disassemble the three electrical connectors around the throttle body clean  this inside of the connectors with circuit cleaner and reassembled. Also check for vacuum leaks, especially pressure regulator hose and the small pipes connected to the intake-manifold before replacing anything.

Myth 4
Epc light is mostly known to come on when there is emissions problems. 

Myth 4 busted This is incorrect because the 'check engine light' is specific to emission related problems, however The EPC light may also come on if the emission related problem affects the engine torque. So repairing the emission related problem first would in most cases reset both the EPC light and the 'check engine light'.


Sensors associated with EPC

Extensive safety measures have been designed and implimented 
in both the hardware and software of Audi and VW.  In most cases dual sensors are used for continual self-checking of signal plausibility. A safety watcg dog timer is integrated in the Motronic ECM to constantly and continually monitor the processor for correct and proper operation. Some of the sensors are listed below.

Fuel Pressure Sensor G247
Low Fuel Pressure Sensor G410
Oil Level Thermal Sensor G266
Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) G39
Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) 2 G108
Oxygen Sensor (O2S) G130 &  G130
situated behind 3 Way Catalytic Converter (TWC) G130
G186 Throttle Drive  (EPC))
G187 Throttle Drive Angle Sensor 1  (EPC))
G188 Throttle Drive Angle Sensor 2  (EPC))
Engine Speed (RPM) Sensor G28
Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor G70
Throttle Position (TP) Sensor G79
Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor 2 G185
Clutch Position Sensor G476
Throttle Valve Control Module J338 
Throttle Drive Angle Sensor 1 (EPC) G187
Throttle Drive Angle Sensor 2 (EPC) G188
Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor G40
Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor 2 G163
Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor G62
Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor G83 (on radiator) 
Knock Sensor (KS) 1 G61
Knock Sensor (KS) 2 G66
Brake Light Switch F