High Speed Computers

HIGH SPEED COMPUTERS

All modern-day motor vehicles using our roads today; and those manufactured since 1996 can literally be referred to as COW ("computers on wheels"). Since your car is less than 25  years in age, it certainly has a computer on board, but the level of control it has over your car is determined by its recentness.  So the more recent your car the more  control the computer has over its functionality. 

BLACK BOXES

However, the computer in question is unlike the ones with the LCD screen, keyboard and mouse that everyone is familiar with, yet very similar in its processing ability. One  could say these computers are akin to the flight recorders fitted to aircraft which in  avionics are commonly called "black-boxes". But unlike the traditional PC, automotive  "black-boxes" are heavily regulated by standards and legislation regarding consumer  safety. 

ECU

Industry wide automotive "black-boxes" are commonly known as Electronic Control Units abbreviated ECUs and is the home of on-board diagnostics software, named OBD II. This  on-board diagnostic system in essence is a combination of hardware and software  running an intelligent system that incorporates various types of the sensors, each  integrated into the vital areas of the vehicle that monitors its overall performance.The most common of which are the engine RPM sensor, the crankshaft and camshaft  position sensors, the car's air and coolant temperature sensor, the oil level sensor, road speed sensor, the accelerator pedal and throttle control sensor which is also  known as drive-by-wire. The software consists of over 100 million lines of code which pools and controls dozens of electronic control units (ECUs) via the CAN  protocol and CAN bus thus able to manipulate everything from Engine Electronics to ABS braking system, to Steering Assist, to Infotainment System, to Heating/Air  Conditioning, to Airbag, to Instrument Cluster, to Tire Pressure Monitoring, to Back-Up Camera among so many other. 

SENSORS

As such, ECUs have revolutionized and souped-up modern motor vehicles, giving them added fuel efficiency, safety, pollution reduction, speed on demand, and an early  diagnostic malfunction detection. Restated, the ECU contains a self-diagnosis system capable of detecting glitches and small mechanical and electrical issues long before  they actually occur thus saving you thousands in tow-in charges and would be expensive repairs. It eliminates the need to cross the fingers when you start hearing  peculiar noises coming from the engine or transmission and it could prevent you from  getting stuck on the road.

DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES

Vehicle dependent, the OBD II system alerts the driver to any malfunction in real time by flagging errors by way of digital code, displayed on the dashboard. Decoding these  errors timorously and taking the necessary action would certainly avert more serious troubles later. Errors on vehicles without LCD display can be viewed with a diagnostic  scan tool when plugged into its 16-pin ODB II socket. These vehicles would then also have CEL (check engine light) / aka MIL (malfunction indicator lamp, an EPC light among  its menagerie of symbol warning lights. DTC (diagnostic trouble codes) are  essentially fault codes, presented as five-digit alphanumeric codes that identify a particular problem in one of four areas in the car, viz: P-Codes (Power train), U-Codes  (Chassis), B-Codes (Body) and U-Codes (User Wiring Bus Network). 

A few example of these codes are P0195 - Engine Oil Temperature Sensor, P0304 -  Cylinder 4 Misfire  Detected, B1000 - ECU Malfunction, B1713 - Mirror Switch R Down Input Stuck High, C0050 - Right Rear Wheel Speed Circuit Malfunction, C0611 - VIN Information Error,  U0130 Lost Communication With Steering Effort Control Module and U0324 Software Incompatibility with HVAC Control Module. Without a scan tool plugged into the OBD II  socket it’s impossible to extract the DTC from the ECU non-volatile memory, let alone  fix these faults.

ODB II SOCKET

It would therefore be fair to say that the OBD II socket has become the most important and indispensable means of diagnosing automotive problems hence also fair to say that  it has become the most used automotive receptacle since its inception. That being said, OBD II GPS tracker is now also the most convenient vehicle tracking device on  the market via GSM which plugs into a splitter / adapter cable. Armed with a SIM card, the GPS GSM module can be tracked on a cell phone tracking app and the software would even  allow its user to disable the car’s engine remotely via GSM /GPRS and OBD II in the event the vehicle is hijacked or stolen. Unlike GSM where the cost of a data call is  related to the time spent on the network, a GPRS data session is dependent on the amount of data sent and received. So by implication GPRS is “always on always  connected”. 

GPS MODULE

GPS modules generally have several convenient features amongst which is a real-time vehicle tracking system with a 180-day of tracking historical data accessible on a web  server. GPS has time accuracy of 1 microsecond and an accuracy of less than 10 meters. It will continue working even if the cars battery is removed as it has a built-in  180mAh/ 3.7V battery. GSM module also has a host of security features but the best  part of an OBD II GPS Tracker is that it's simple to install without any wire  connections. It is purely a DIY matter of plug and play. A splitter cable that plugs  into the cars original 16-pin OBD II port with two addition 16-pin OBD II ports, one for the GPS module and the other available to a scan tool. 

SECURITY RISKS

All this fancy gadgetry doesn't come with risks. The first of which is the CAN  protocol which suffers from several security issues that were originally ignored by  most vehicles manufactures. Reason being that the various automotive networks and  ECUs were initially designed to primarily gain physical access to the vehicle ECUs and speed / reaction-time was a secondary concern and more important that security which  was then placed on the back burner. With a GSM SIM card in the GPS module that can directly  communicate with the CAN bus and protocol it wouldn't be difficult for a hacker to gain access to the vehicle as it will be just another node on the internet. With remote interfaces like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or cellular that is accessible from  outside of the car, access can typically be gained, thus aftermarket OBD-II devices have the potential to introduce security risks to an automobile and compromise the safety of its passengers. Connecting directly to the vehicle in this manner could result in control over safety-critical functions as CAN, by design, offers no  protection from hacker manipulation.

With none existent comms security, somehow cars of the future with a CAN-Bus at its basis doesn't look it has a future at all. It reminds of other technologies that we were forced to abandon with the arrival of the new. Case in point, Vinyl Records for CD recorders, DVD that superseded video tapes, MP3 players that superseded audio cassettes and audio CD's, Flash drives that superseded removable media, etc. Solid state drives that is superseding hard drives. Would we have to abandon our CAN based cars like we did our other techno bits in favour of a new automotive protocols with features that has support for Kerberos, SSH, IPSec, OSPF authentication, VPNs, SSL and TLS?

Electronic Vehicle Architecture

The Electronics  Industry has had the fastest growth in the shortest amount of time, when compared to any other industry worldwide.  But before I expound on that, let me just say that, the invention of numerous mechanical contraptions during the late 1800s, like  James Watt's steam engine for example, started the transition towards new manufacturing processes which collectively gave rise to the Industrial Revolution. Much later Samuel Finley Breese Morse invented the single-wire electric telegraph system and developed the Morse  Code. 

A bit of History

Sometime thereafter Alexander Graham Bell invented the first practical telephone system. Their's and the collective  efforts of so many others, without discounting anyone's  inventions and efforts, changed telecommunications forever. Ancient records show that  the first streets of Baghdad were paved with tar, that the Babylonians used asphalt to construct the walls and towers of Babylon.  The I-Ching even bears testimony to the fact that the cites of China used oil, extracted in its raw state some  2000 years ago before refining was first  discovered. Implying that the petroleum industry is not new, but that the current status of petroleum is a key component of politics,  technology and society today.

No tot digress, tar, crude oil and pitch, were used as a sources of fuel long before paraffin was even distilled from it. The thin distilled  paraffin was normally used as fuel for lamps whereas several hundreds of years later, the thicker residue was used to lubricate machinery. In and around the  time when oil/gas/fuel/petroluem was extracted from coal, Étienne Lenoir successfully built the internal combustion engine and innovated by Nikolaus Otto, who became famous for successfully developing the compressed charge internal combustion engine - the Otto engine.  

Assembly lines

Henry Ford on  the other hand wasn't an inventor nor an innovator as many have been led to believe, but he was rather a business magnate and a captain of  industry, who formed the Ford Motor Company, and sponsored the development of the "assembly line technique" for vehicle mass  production. One can therefore confidently say that their combined efforts, without diminishing any other contributor's efforts by the very least, over a period of some 200 years, are partially responsible for the social changes and economic development that shaped  societies that we live in today. This was  the infancy of the Automotive industry.

However, compared the Industrial revolution, modern day electronics would be equivalent to a Global Coup. Initially there was the  vacuum tube aka the electron tube, colloquially known as a valve. It gave way to the trusty transistor and discrete components which gave rise to the  analogue Integrated Circuit (IC) aka chip, followed by digital Transistor/Transistor logic (TTL) chips, followed by complementary  metal oxide semiconductors (CMOS), then digital semiconductors like ROM (digital read only memory), RAM (random access memory),  EEPROM (electronically erasable programmable read only memory), followed by large scale integration chips and VSLI (Very Large Scale  Integration Chips). 

Electronics and Software

With the advent of multilayer circuit boards and surface mounted technology, microcontroller SoC (system on a chip)  and microprocessors (µP) became pervasive. Assembler language was superseded by several high level languages for programmable chips and  software programming sat at the heart of most electronic devices and electronic systems. All of this happened in 50 years of electronics  as opposed  to 200 years of mechanical devices.

So you may ask, what has all this history to do with Volkswagen, Audi, Seat and Skoda and for that matter all other modes of transport  from plans to trains? Well the short answer, everything! Much like the Industrial Revolution with its mechanical ingenuity;  cars and planes were also predominantly mechanical since its inception, its mechanical ignition system was prone to imprecise ignition timing, resulting in improper fuel mixture burn, thus increasing its exhaust pollution. 

With the rise of telecommunications, so did  the electric wires, and electrically controlled gauges, relays and switches in cars and planes multiplied. The ever inflating cost of  gasoline then triggered the invention of CDI (Capacitive Discharge Ignition systems) which is in fact the first type of electronic  contraption integrated into the ignition system of a vehicle in order to, more precisely control its ignition timing, making it more  fuel efficient. 

These devices were available as add on kits and not produced as standard equipment in cars at the time. The preferred standard  equipment was the IDI  (inductive ignition system) and is the most common ignition system found on all cars built prior to 1980. It used a coil and distributor incorporating breaker points in its ignition system that was prone to ware-out due to arcing on  contact. During the 80's engines still used a coil and distributor to achieve dwell but it was somewhat computer controlled and by  the 90's the automotive computer evolved to ignition modules and the ECU, replacing the coil with a power pack. 

However, with the constant and  ever increasing price of gasoline and looming environmental concerns centred around vehicle exhaust pollution, the automotive  industry then accelerated its research and development into newer more compact fuel efficient power-train systems capable of higher  power output with enhanced robustness with a open policy towards alternative fuels.

New generation cars

So, by the 90's the Insulated-Gate Bipolar Transistor (IGBT) was introduced into the ignition system as discrete component connected  to the ECU called OBD - On-Board diagnostics. By 1993 the CAN protocol was standardized by ISO which led to its increased popularity  and adoption across the automotive industry.  By 1996 OBD had evolved to OBD-II and the discrete IGBT evolve into a IGBT module  integrated into individual coils itself. Starting from Y2k ignition systems were all ECU based but power packs were replaced by a  dedicated coil per cylinder, yet cloning the use of an Insulated-Gate Bipolar Transistor (IGBT) as discrete component connected to  the ECU. 

Communication Buses

From 2004 to 2010 the discrete Insulated-Gate Bipolar Transistor (IGBT) integrated into individual ignition coils evolved to a smart IGBT alongside the ECU.  The automotive ignition system had undergone a complete revolution which contributed significantly  to the system’s efficiency, exhaust pollution reduction, and robustness. By which time the use of wires had been minimized in  preference of a bus network which supported vehicle weight reduction and  vehicle cost. Copper wire have been replaced by fibre optic cable to facilitate faster communication. Some of the most important bus communication systems are CAN-Bus, Lin-Bus, MOST and  FlexRay.

Actuators and sensors, electronic control modules, Can-Bus and the ECU collectively facilitating Electronic Power Control (EPC) aka electronic throttle  control (ETC), Electronic Exhaust gas reticulation (EEGR), Electronic Valve Control (EVC), Electronic fuel injectors and so much  more, are just a small part of the overall influence that electronics have had on all vehicle engines. Other subsidiary programmable electronic  modules which are smaller computers in their own right now permeate cars, bikes, planes and boats, all connected together by at least three network systems. 

CAN-Bus is a multi-master twisted pair wire system reserved for high speed control systems like brakes,  whereas LIN bus is a single master, single wire system for low level communication for use by the rain sensor, sun roof, internal heating, and  the infotainment-bus, is a slow-speed system reserved for radio, GPS, internet communication, etc. Each system communicating with each  of its nodes in its provided protocol, each having different data transmission rates. By incorporating this level of electronics into cars, it has vastly improved stichometry and overall engine  performance, its economy, its driveability  and its safety besides reducing  emissions. 

Inept electronic knowledge

However, few mechanics know sufficient about electronics with its combinational logic, digital multiplexing, bits and  bytes, start and stop bits, fixed frames, software, etc to repair these cars packed with intercommunicating electronic modules. Even though scan tools have vastly increased their chances at successful repair, not knowing how to interpret fault codes further disadvantages them, not to  mention how frustrating it is for the vehicle owner who gets stuff around by incompetence. And here I’m even refereeing to the  "Automotive Technicians" employed by their respective automotive agents, who are more often than not incapable of repairing vehicles fitted with OBD-II. I'm quite sure there are several hundred if not thousands  of  VW owners who would concur.  How is it even expected for the DIY mechanic to fix it him or her self if the agents can't. Needless to say that  with continuous improvements comes great complexity and their successful  strategy to part us with our hard earned monies.

Diagnostic Trouble Codes abbreviated as DTC have been around for approx 30 years and is a component of OBD-II (onboard diagnostic system ver.2). These codes can be found stored  in the ECU's non-volatile memory for later retrieval by way of a scan tool. DTCs are displayed specific to the kind of problem that the system can or does detect from inside of a car engine/transmission, chassis, body or network.

Scan codes

In reality DTC codes can assist "automotive technicians", DIY mechanics and car owners to understand the problem with the car and possibly point them towards the nature of the problem or at the very least the system concerned. Bearing in mind many DTCs are generic but many of them are manufacturer specific and is best interpreted by consulting the car's manual.  Generic codes are defined by the EOBD / OBD-II standard and will therefore be the same for all car manufacturers.

But, let me break it down to for you. All diagnostic codes are alphanumeric as in P0XXX. It start with a letter followed by 4 numbers, as in P0303. This initial letter is P but can also be either B, C or U. They stand for Powertrain, Body, Chassis and Network respectively. The first numeral following the letter signifies whether the fault is generic of manufacturer specific. Since its a 0, its a generic code but if had a 1 then it would be manufacturer specific. The number 3  following the first 0 can be any numeral between 1 and 9. This number directs you to the subsystem of the car and is as follows.

Px1xx Air and fuel metering

Px2xx Air and fuel metering

Px3xx Ignition system and misfires

Px4xx Auxiliary  / additional emission control

Px5xx Speed control and idle regulation

Px6xx Communication /computer output signals

Px7xx Transmission

Px8xx Transmission

Px9xx Control modules, input and output signals

The final two numbers (xx) designate the individual components / sensors /actuator that threw the error. For example P0300 says, it's a powertrain error, it's generic in nature, it's in the ignition system and it's a random misfire. 

Whereas P0301 says misfire by cylinder No. 1,

Whereas P0304 says misfire by cylinder No. 4,

Whereas P0308 says misfire by cylinder No. 8,

Whereas P0312 says misfire by cylinder No. 12,

Likewise P0403 says, its a powetrain error, it's generic in nature, it's in the auxiliary / emission system and that the "Exhaust gas recirculation control malfunctioned"

Likewise P0501 says, its a powetrain error, it's generic in nature, it's in the speed control/regulation circuit and it's the "Vehicle speed sensor is out of range".

Like wise P0656 says,its a powetrain error, it's generic in nature, its in the computer/communication system and that its the "Fuel level output electrical sensor/circuit" 

Then there are also VAG specific 5 number numerical codes that coincide with P,B,C and U codes, like 16692 which coincides with P0308 (Misfire Detected on Cylinder 8)

And 17026 which coincides with P0642 (Knock Control Control Module Malfunction)

EPC issues

EPC Issues

EPC complaints have become the most common Volkswagen fault and outstrips check-engine-light three to one. It is one of the most tiresome and frustrating  faults to diagnose and repair because the only way of knowing that your most recent repair cured your EPC problem, is when it does't occur in the same situation under the same conditions thereafter. Mechanisms generally refer to Electronic Power Control (EPC) faults as evil, a waste of time and the cause of embarrassment.

Many disillusioned VW car owners can confirm that they've taken their vehicle to at least 2 different workshops to fix their respective EPC light problem. Often wanting a refund from the first workshop as they didn't fix the EPC issue, but only said they did. It's also known fact that tons of spare parts suspected of causing EPC have been replaced that didn't need replacing in the first place. Trial and error EPC repair seems to be the order of the day among motor mechanics. Even the agents are guilty of this and VW car owners are generally fed-up of mechanical and electronic competence. Many car owners and DIY mechanics are longing for the days when cars had a lot less electronics, were easier to diagnose and repair and one didn't need a degree in automotive engineering to replace something as meager as a MAF sensor. The word EPC among many others, is just one of the mechanical jargon that has come to invade the car industry. There are so many; to list just a few. Several of them capable of throwing an EPC light.

AIR: Air Injection System
ACC: Adaptive Cruise Control
ABS: Antilock Braking System
AWD: All-Wheel Drive
BHP: Brake Horsepower
CEL: Check Engine Light
CO2: Carbon Dioxide
CKP: Crankshaft Position Sensor
DLC: Data Link Connector
DDI: Direct Diesel Injection
DPF: Diesel Particulate Filter
DRL: Daytime Running Lights
DTC: Diagnostic Trouble Codes 
DSG: Direct-Shift Gearbox
ECT: Engine Coolant Temperature
ECU: Electronic Control Unit
EGR: Exhaust Gas Recirculation
EPA: Environmental Protection Agency
ESC: Electronic Stability Control
ESP: Electronic Stability Program 
FSH: Full Service History
FWD: Front Wheel Drive
IAT: Intake Air Temperature
KPH: Kilometres Per Hour
LED: Light Emitting Diode
LSD: Limited Slip Differential
LPG: Liquid Petroleum Gas
LWB: Long Wheelbase
MAF : Mass Air Flow (sensor) 
MAP: Manifold Absolute Pressure
MIL: Malfunction Indicator Light
MPV: Multi-Purpose Vehicle 
OBD: On-board Diagnostics
PCM: Powertrain Control Module
RPM: Revolutions Per Minute
RWD: Rear Wheel Drive
SUV: Sport Utility Vehicle
TDC: Top Dead Center
TCS: Traction Control System
TCU: Transmission Control Unit
TPS: Throttle Position Sensor
VCM: Vehicle Communications Module 
VIN: Vehicle Identification Number
VRM: Vehicle Registration Mark
WOT: Wide Open Throttle

The letters EPC in the automotive sector initially meant Electronic Parts Catalogue. Recording every conceivable component used in the  manufacture of that car, listed in alphanumeric order. Some EPC are exclusively online versions, or downloadable as pdf. Some cover specific cars  and others cover several makes of cars and is normally free, whereas the more elaborate EPCs with specialist automotive service data is charged for per search or as a monthly subscription.

For example, the ETK 2018 EPC  is specific to BMW,  Rolls Royce, Mini and the Chinese Zinoro which is the luxury automobile brand owned by BMW Brilliance specializing  in electric vehicles. ETK comes at an exorbitant price, in either downloadable or CD/DVD form. The Volkswagen  ETKA online /  ELSAWIN EPC is specific to Volkswagen, Audi, Seat and Skoda and spans 6 CDs and is also fairly expensive. It is an encyclopediac like compendium covering VW, Audi, Seat and Skoda vehicles manufactured between 1947 and 2018 in varying degrees of detail. 

It also includes the actual service & repair software used by factory technicians at Volkswagen, Audi, Seat, Skoda and their dealer workshops throughout the world. As such it would be in indispensable resource for the Volkswagen enthusiast but is also overkill for most. However most modern day cars have an EPC circuit which essentially deals with the torque of the vehicle. Using one of these catalogues and its diagnostic diagrams to identify these components and problems is one of the easiest ways of fixing EPC problems. To fix your EPC problem, click here, here or here.

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My EPC light came on

My epc light came on

Virtually every  motoring enthusiasts who owns a Volkswagen Golf TDI  simply loves its torque; its drive, its racy performance, its braking, its fuel economy and especially its manual transmission model. Be that as it may, 6 out of 10 Volkswagen and Audi owners are unhappy about Volkswagen as a whole. Unhappy about their cheating devices, unhappy about the emission scandal, unhappy about the entire VW TDI buy back claims processes, but more specifically unhappy about having to give back the car that they love so much.

According to the 225-page court document that outlines VW’s settlement, which reads,

“At the present time, there are no practical engineering solutions that would, without negative impact to vehicle functions and unacceptable delay, bring the 2.0 Liter Subject Vehicles into compliance with the exhaust emission standards.” 

This is so wrong on so many different levels hence most VW and Audi owners are completely pissed-off -pissed-off at Volkswagen. Event hough most VW TDI enthusiasts haven't returned their cars, they are already missing them, even before it's taken back; all of them very unhappy about it. It's always good to be optimistic about the buyback outcome but pessimistically speaking, VW, Audi, Seat and Skoda owner's are all complaining about their cars, ranging from, 

"My epc light came on and I lost power",  to 

"I got stranded on the side of the highway today for  almost an hour when my EPC light went on",  to 

"The first time it happened, the EPC light turned on and loss of  power lasted for a day and then it went away on it's own",  This is now the third time this happened, the EPC light comes on and then my car just loses power", 

"I took my car to the VW agents for a EPC problem who then said they  found a few error code but they didn't know what was wrong, so they just reset them",  

"Totally disgusted, by the dealer's complete and utter  disregard to accept responsibility for their pathetic  workmanship. They threw a dozen parts at the problem at my cost and the EPC problem is still not solved", 

I've kept track of all the faults on my VW Polo, and it fills a foolscap page.  It ranges  from interior parts falling off, the foot rest lodging itself under the brake pedal whilst driving, the brakes randomly engaging and causing under steer, to continual  creaks from the suspension, the gearbox is crap, not to mention my daily battle with an EPC issue. My Polo's been back to VW a full 58 days during this  year, yet they still haven't fixed all the issues and  as a result I very nearly caused 2 accidents due to  the on-going braking issue, and the EPC going  into limp mode on an on-ramp,  

I've spent more than a  year trying to solve  the problem “EPC” light problem, I've already  replaced  the Acceleration pedal, Two sensors located  under the engine, Cambelt kit, Throttle Body, all the  injectors and the ignition coils and the ECU,   but the light still regularly comes on,  

The VW guaranteed future Value a Rip-Off! I have never  been so dissatisfied with help from customer service and  will NEVER EVER purchase another Volkswagen nor recommend it to anyone I know, because of the shoddy  way we were treated. The staff working in VW credit and financial are rude and disorganized, no wonder they losing all their customers.They charged me for items covered by the warranty.

And the list goes on. These are only a few of the nice clients  I wouldn't want to repeat what some of the other "not so nice" clients said about Volkswagen and their cars, especially about the EPC light and limp mode. Electronic power Control (EPC) has become part of every VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat owners vocabulary, yet few understand what it really is. So allow me to put you in the picture.

Electronic Power Control

The EPC warning light is just a regular warning indicator light, much like your handbrake light or your oil indicator light.  The handbrake light just tells you that the hand break is engaged, alternatively that it hasn't been released. Likewise the oil light is a warning indicator that alerts the driver to the fact that the oil is low. In the very same vain the EPC warning  light is just an indication that something awry has happened in your Volkswagen's torque system, which is a sub-circuit of the Electronic Power Control Circuit.  

So what exactly is the torque system ? you may ask. Well is consists of various interlinked components, where the functionality of one is subject to another. These components are your  Volkswagen's entire drive-by-wire system, incorporating the  accelerator pedal, the throttle body, the cruise control, the traction control, the breaking system, the fuel pressure system, the knock sensors and the ECU, along with the wiring harnesses that inter-connects all these components. The wiring harness is a safer substitute for accellerator cable in all drive-by-wire systems.  

The accelerator pedal

The accelerator pedal for that matter, has 2 independent potentiometers inside a module that's permanently bonded to the pedal itself. These 2 potentiometers are call senders by Volkswagen and known as G79 and G185, but I will use these terms interchangeably.  This module is connected to the ECU via a 6 wire harness, essentially 3 wires per senders. Before, I continue, let me tell you what a potentiometer is, if you not familiar with the term. Another name for a potentiometer is variable resistor or a rheostat. It is most commonly used as rotary the control knob on a radio, with which to control the level of its volume. It is also commonly used in  the bedroom light dimmer to adjust the level of light needed. 

Each sender has 3 pins, 1 for each end of its resistor and 1 pin for its wiper. All three pins of each sender are connected to 3 pins specific pins of the ECU. The ECU sends each sender a high and a low voltage across their resistors and receives a difference fed back voltage from each sender's wiper. The 2 wiper feedback voltages are referenced and inverted to one another and translated by the ECU as how much the accelerator pedal is depressed.  Should  the ECU loose either of the wiper inputs for even a fraction of a second, the ECU limp mode program will execute, the EPC light will come on and the engine wont rev higher that 2000 rpm any longer. When my EPC light came on, I traced it back to a fault/ intermittent accelerator pedal due to error codes P1630  to P1634 and P1639.

The throttle body

Much like the accelerator module, the throttle body also has 2 integrated potentiometers called angle sensors known as G186 and G187. They inform the ECU how wide open or closed its butterfly is. The throttle body also has a built-in stepper motor known as an actuator. The ECU essentially translates the accelerator pedal position to a voltage / pulse train that drives the stepper motor, that in turn opens and closes the throttle body butterfly, controlling  air flow between air filter and intake manifold.  In a nutshell, a remote control system that mimics the operation of an accelerator cable. If for any reason the throttle body is removed or dismantled, it would be necessary to perform the adaptation procedure. When my EPC light came on, I traced it back to a  throttle body problem with error codes P1171 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle Actuator (G188) Implausible Signal.

The cruise control

When the cruise control is enabled, a signal is sent to the ECU to this effect, which in turn sends the necessary voltage / pulse train to the throttle body stepper motor to keep it steady and received feedback from G186 and G187 to further control the process., ignoring the accelerator pedal until the brake is applied or receiving a signal change from the accelerator pedal. Should something go awry in this process, cruise control will be canceled, the ECU limp mode program will execute, the EPC light will come on and the engine wont rev higher that 2000 rpm any longer. When my EPC light came on, I traced it back to a  cruise control switch problem with error codes  00895 - Cruise Control Switch (E45) Defective.

Loss of Power

LOSS OF POWER

On Sunday past, whilst taking my family for a drive along our scenic coastline on the Western Cape, I happened to see no less than three Volkswagen cars, each being loaded onto a roll-back. A VW Polo Vivo in Muizenberg, an Audi S4 in  Fish Hoek and a VW Scirocco in Scarborough. I couldn't help but feel awkward about my own Volkswagen Polo because after all, three out of three vehicles on the roll-backs were Volkswagen manufactured cars. I would have felt loads better if at least one of them were a Toyota or a Ford or a Honda. Understandable there are a lot more Volkswagen vehicles on the road than any other make, hence the higher failure rate.  

However, I instinctively pulled over for a chat with the driver of the Scirocco to inquire about the problem. It's owner Gwendaline. apparently parked her car to go for a walk on the beach and when she returned, had difficulty in starting her car. When it finally started , the whole car shook like her washing machine does in its spins cycle.  According to her, the Scirocco  is  really an excellent car with very few issues other than regular EPC light issues; and that its 18 inches tyres are a bit expensive. So we started talking about the EPC - Electronic Power Control and she seems really knowlegeable about it.  Our conversation went something like this.

Electronic Power Control

The EPC warning light, is just an indicator light powered by the Electronic Power Control circuit. Most people are under the impression that it indicates that there is something wrong with the engine when it light up. But this is not exactly the case, because the EPC light does come on when a brake light is fused or the fuel tank cap isn't properly closed.  When The EPC warning light flashes or stays on, it merely alerts the driver to a problem that may exists in your Volkswagen's throttle system. The throttle system encompasses  the throttle body, the throttle control motor, the accelerator pedal, the drive-by-wire electronics, the traction control, the cruise control, the stability control, the fuel delivery system and even the braking system and all their sensors, etc.. 

What does it mean when the EPC warning light turns on in a Volkswagen?

The throttle body motor opens and closes the butterfly valve located on the intake manifold which regulates the amount of air that goes into the engine, in relation to the position of the accelerator pedal. Implying the higher the air flow into the engine, the more fuel the ECU injects, thereby increasing  or decreasing the power output of the engine. When a problem is detected in the throttle system, a signal from one of the sensors triggers the  ECU into illuminating  the EPC  warning light. 


The Electronic Power Control (EPC) is just a part of the Engine Management System, which in turn is part of the overall On-Board Diagnostic II system. Normally when the a problem is detected that causes the EPC light to turns on, it also sends fault codes to the dashboard module or gateway module, vehicle model dependent. These fault codes can be retrieved by an ODBII scanner / smart phone, which are key to isolating the area of the throttle system that has failed. Most EPC light and ESP light problems will limit your Volkswagen's output power, commonly known as "limp mode".  

It is advisable that when either the EPC or ESP lights turn on, the problem associated with it be repaired timeously. A Volkswagen in limp mode should not be used to run errands, and since the car has sufficient power to drive it to  dealership or mechanical repair shop, it is best to do so. Normally once the fault / problem is remedied the EPC or ESP light will turn off. However, there are hundreds if not thousands of Volkswagen owners who have taken their Volkswagen cars into dealerships for repair, only to encounter the same EPC / ESP problem a day or two later.  Some of them suffer with EPC problems for months and I personally know of someone who had an EPC problem for more than a year. That's enough to drive the sanest person nuts.

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My W Polo classic 2003 model's EPC light is on and there's no acceleration. My VW Jetta's dashboard displays the word  EPC, now it has no power. My VW Golf diplay the letters Epc, what can I do?  My VW Golf IV cluster shows both epc and esp and it won't revv up, nor go more than 70 km/h. My VW Sirocco 2017 model's epc light has come on again. My car's EPC light is on and I don't know what to do?  

Is EPC safe?

IS EPC SAFE?

The Electronic Power Control Circuit with its EPC light virtually has every motorist annoyed globally. Most motorists seem to be up in arms over this "idiotic warning light". Yes, this is exactly what several clients have called it because they believe manufacturers added it into cars as  a "cash cow" measure, which the dealer will reset by just pressing a button and charge then through there noses. This is really not the case because there are so many dealer's mechanical workshops that have no idea how to fault find nor repair and EPC fault. Motorists have even gone as far as saying the the EPC circuit is an unnecessary addition, as the tried and tested Otto Cycle internal combustion engine has worked perfectly for at least a hundred years without it.  

Without question, the EPC light is probably the most misunderstood dashboard light plaguing motorist the past two decades. However the EPC circuit is in fact a safety feature that few seem to appreciate. But is doesn't work in isolation, it is a sub circuit of a the ECU circuit. The ECU overseas the running of the running of engine at its peak whereas the EPC circuit is specific to the torque circuit - whatever propels the vehicle and safely stops the vehicle!

For example, in older cars that used a physical cable to control the throttle; it was prone to fray and could easily get stuck whist driving at high speed. This actually happened hundreds if not thousands of times, hence an alternative was imperative. When releasing the accelerator pedal with a frayed cable the engine would remain at a high rev and make braking difficult if not impossible. Restated, an accident in the making. This will never happen with cars fitted with EPC because it uses drive by wire - which in effect is an electronic throttle control,

Some Volkswagen vehicle problems makes driving in traffic very difficult let alone dangerous due to loss of braking & steering assistance. Case in point, when the ABS warning light comes on, its more often than not a melted fuse located on the battery cover that dies from metal fatigue or caused by faulty  or  intermittent connection on the wheel rotation sensor wiring.  Or if one of the brake light burns out, the EPC circuit would determine that the car is not in a "roadworthy condition" and instruct the ECU to disables propulsion so that the necessary repairs can be effected.

The EPC circuit monitors several sensors and when anyone of them go out of whack, the EPC kicks in, to the rescue of the driver by sending the car into limp mode. Admittedly not everyone shares the sentiment that "limp mode" is a safety measure because if appears to causes more feelings of frustration than feelings of safety. There are tens of thousands of motorists who would testify to the latter, myself included. I experienced  loss of power whilst driving on the freeway with a large trucks behind me, that almost wiped me out if I hadn't swerved out of its way just in time.

I'm almost certain you've had a similar experience with your Volkswagen. My sister had such an experience with her grandchildren in the car ad she swore she would never drive a Volkswagen again.

Volkswagen and Audi EPC

Volkswagen and Audi EPC

The Internet is a huge repository of  information, some useful  and some not so useful, or more to the point, useless. But, there is so much of both, duplicated and reechoed  in posts like auto-facts, axleaddict, youfixcars, and motor forums by so many individuals. There is nothing worst than being led up the garden path by some ignoramus who knows squat about electro-mechanical engineering technology when you are desperately looking for answers. To reduce that from happening, I decides to bust some of the myths related to VAG cars that are being echoed over and over and over.

EPC can be a bitch to repair.

Myth 1
Here's the first myth from someone on Yahoo Answers, relating to a 2012 VW Polo. "You can clear fault codes by disconnecting your battery for a while".  And here's another, "just disconnect the battery on your Audi A3 for a little more than 10 seconds and your fault codes will be  gone"! 

Myth 1 Busted
Though the above is true for pre-1996 vehicles fitted with OBD-I, disconnecting the battery on any car manufactured post-1996 fitted with OBD-II will definitely not delete any fault codes because the ECU stores all DTC (Dignostic Trouble Codes) aka fault codes codes in its  non-volatile memory.  What it will do, is reset the cpu / timer. The term non-volatile memory is generally used for all types of solid state memory, meaning memory that doesn't need its contents refreshed periodically. 

However, the ECU also stores learnt values and basic settings, like for example the Fuel Control Learning Adaptation Values and the Kick-Down Position of the Accelerator which is needed by the automatic transmission. This data and your car's radio code is not stored in non-volatile memory and will undoubtedly be erased when the battery is disconnected.  Once the battery is reconnected, the adaptation process needs to be done which will enable the ECM to learn the new settings for the Drive-by-Wire electronic throttle  valve and store it. If you didn't save the radio code you have to go to a VW / Audi dealer with your VIN and they may be able to give it to you.

When you disconnect your car's battery, the ECU detects the loss of battery power and registers a DTC in the ECU's non-volatile memory to that effect. This record can be seen after the battery is reconnected and a  diagnostic scan is performed.  It would look something like this,

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

Removing the negative terminal of the battery isn't all bad, it does have the advantage  of resetting  the system's ECU safety watchdog timer. A safety watchdog timer (WDT) is responsible for periodically generating a system reset in the event of a software glitch. This one of a kind CIC61508 safety watchdog timer is ASIL-D (Automotive Safety Integrity Level D) approved,  where level D refers to the highest classification of initial hazard against the risk of injury as defined within ISO26262 automotive industry standard.

Infineon Safety Watchdog timer 

Pressure Sensors

Myth 2
There are pressure sensor in the VW and Audi engine block that causes an EPC light to come on and make the car go into limp mode.

Myth 2 bustedYes, there are pressure sensors in both VW and Audi engines but they not fitted into the block and should not be mistaken for than for knock senors that are screwed to the block. Faulty or loose knock sensors can cause the EPC light to come on and send the car into limp mode.  The baro sensor measures the ambient air pressure and has a effect on engine performance altitude dependent.  The supercharger boost pressure is controlled via the regulating flap control unit Intake manifold pressure sensor/MAP sensor (MAP = Manifold Air Pressure) which can cause the EPC light to come on and send the car into limp mode. The high-pressure fuel pump delivers fuel at a pressure of up to 150 bar and any drop in this pressure can cause the EPC light to come on and send the car into limp mode. Common problem with loss of pressure is the fuel filter. Loss of oil pressure can cause the EPC light to come on and send the car into limp mode. Lastly there is high system pressure in the cooling system at high revs and sudden loss of this pressure can cause the EPC light to come on and send the car into limp mode.

Myth 3
EPC light usually means that the Electronic Throttle Body needs replacing and reprogramming.  

Myth 3 busted It is advantages to perform adaptation on the throttle body, before attempting to replace it with a new throttle body . Often times replacing it makes no difference and normally turn out to be the wiring harness connectors to the throttle body that's defective.   Disassemble the three electrical connectors around the throttle body clean  this inside of the connectors with circuit cleaner and reassembled. Also check for vacuum leaks, especially pressure regulator hose and the small pipes connected to the intake-manifold before replacing anything.

Myth 4
Epc light is mostly known to come on when there is emissions problems. 

Myth 4 busted This is incorrect because the 'check engine light' is specific to emission related problems, however The EPC light may also come on if the emission related problem affects the engine torque. So repairing the emission related problem first would in most cases reset both the EPC light and the 'check engine light'.

Sensors associated with EPC

Extensive safety measures have been designed and implimented 
in both the hardware and software of Audi and VW.  In most cases dual sensors are used for continual self-checking of signal plausibility. A safety watcg dog timer is integrated in the Motronic ECM to constantly and continually monitor the processor for correct and proper operation. Some of the sensors are listed below.

Fuel Pressure Sensor G247
Low Fuel Pressure Sensor G410
Oil Level Thermal Sensor G266
Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) G39
Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) 2 G108
Oxygen Sensor (O2S) G130 &  G130
situated behind 3 Way Catalytic Converter (TWC) G130
G186 Throttle Drive  (EPC))
G187 Throttle Drive Angle Sensor 1  (EPC))
G188 Throttle Drive Angle Sensor 2  (EPC))
Engine Speed (RPM) Sensor G28
Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor G70
Throttle Position (TP) Sensor G79
Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor 2 G185
Clutch Position Sensor G476
Throttle Valve Control Module J338 
Throttle Drive Angle Sensor 1 (EPC) G187
Throttle Drive Angle Sensor 2 (EPC) G188
Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor G40
Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor 2 G163
Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor G62
Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor G83 (on radiator) 
Knock Sensor (KS) 1 G61
Knock Sensor (KS) 2 G66
Brake Light Switch F

Electronic Power Control

Electronic Power Control

What Does the Electronic Power Control (EPC) Warning Light Mean?

Traditionally hand brake, accelerator pedal, clutch and bonnet release, used some sort of cable system and the steering column and gear levers used several mechanical linkages. Today virtually all these mechanical systems have been replaced by electronics in the form of sensors, feeding computers and electric motors performing as actuators. The legacy accelerator cable that controlled the throttle valve and fuel supply in the trusty old carbureter has been entirely replaced by electronics. It is now referred to as drive-by-wire (drive the car by means of electric wire control) and the EPC circuit oversees drive-by-wire system.

So what is an EPC circuit?

EPC stands for Electronic Power Control (EPC) and is a sub circuit of the car's computerized engine management system better know as its ECU which stands for Electronic Control Unit or  Engine control Unit. The EPC circuit uses the input signal supplied by the accelerator position senders and  the throttle angle senders to calculates how much engine power the driver requires. The EPC system also receives input signals from other systems on the car, like the stability and cruise control systems and translates this data into engine torque by means of the actuators.

The EPC circuit also monitors these components at start up and whilst driving and should it detect any malfunction, it will readily illuminate the EPC warning light . The EPC light is a bright yellow/amber instrument cluster light displaying the letters EPC. But it's just a 'Indicator Symbol light' that  informs the driver that an issue occurred in the torque system. Some faults within the EPC circuit will more than likely disable other functions on your vehicle that may even cause it to go into limp mode and not rev or perform very sluggishly.

EPC Warning Light

Since the EPC is a sub circuit of the ECU which supervisors several other systems on the vehicle, it is likely that other warning lights my also illuminate  on the instrument cluster. For example the Check Engine Light (CEL) may illuminate to indicate that the engine itself isn’t operating at normal efficiency. At the same time the stability and cruise control will be disabled and their respective lights may turn on as well.  

When this happens, you will need to have your car scanned for diagnostic trouble codes (DTC) or you could do it yourself if you have an appropriate scanner. Once the error codes are identified, it would be relatively easy to repair / replace the component responsible, and thereafter clear the fault codes. The illuminated lights should all turn off and the car should once again drive as per normal.

Is it safe to drive with the EPC light on?

Many people inquire  whether or not it safe to drive with the EPC light on? In my humble opinion, I would say,  Yes it is safe to drive with the EPC light on, because the EPC light is an abler light and not a red light. Red lights dictates that you shouldn't  drive the car at all, until the problem causing the red light to illuminate is repaired. Whereas an amber light is just an information sign. One can equate dashboard lights to road signs, for example if a red traffic light or a red stop sign with white-background  or other red and white regulatory sign is blatantly disobeyed, it will more likely than not result in harm or injury. Round red and triangular red road signs are warning signs and means danger. Also any sign with a white background signifies the sign is permanent  whereas a sign with a yellow background signifies that the sign is temporary and any square /diamond shaped orange/amber signs are used for roadway works information and guidance.

So return to the subject at hand, yellow/amber lights are therefore informative and temporary. However when the EPC light is on and the car goes into limp mode then its not safe to drive with the EPC light on, because you will be going dead slow and be an obstruction to other motorists. Limp mode is just a shortened form for limp home mode which is  an operating mode set by the vehicle's on-board  computer which is pre-programmed by the manufacturer. This program limits  your vehicle throttle in order to protect the engine or the car itself or its occupants from harm or injury and the car should only be driven to take it for  repairs.

As can be seen, the four signs on the right are red with the top two including white
whereas the four signs on the left are all yellow  which is informative and temporary. 

However the severity of the EPC problem can vary greatly and the vehicle may not be operable at all.  Common cause of  car’s EPC circuit malfunctioning are its sensors. Replacement normally solves the problem, however EPC faults can register intermittently to the point of frustration. In such cases it's very likely the wiring harness are intermittently faulty especially where the plugs connect to the sensors. If your engine suddenly shuts off while driving, you may want to look at the Engine speed sensor. The  crank shaft rotation sensor also commonly fail, when starting the car's engine while stationary. A tell tale sin is that the  the engine switches off after two second of idling. 

The brake light switch is yet another  EPC light trigger and is solved by replacement. This switch is a double pole double trow switch and isn't physically associated with the brake other than the same switch is used. On automatic vehicles brake switch failure locks the gear lever in Park and prevents  from selecting any other gear. The Mass air flow sensor is another common cause of EPC problems but in many cases it's not the MAF itself. It may be due to minor cracks in the rubber hoses that causes air to be sucked in, upsetting ECU calculations. The Throttle body and its angle sensors and drive motor is another is also another EPC problem child.

@volkswagenindia why am I getting EPC light again and again. Already 7 times repaired. Tired!! @Volkswagen pic.twitter.com/S1GzM6shNT

— विरल (@Viral_HS1) July 1, 2017

My EPC light

My EPC light

If you've had your VW, Audi, SKODA or SEAT for a while, you're probably familiar with the EPC light and already experienced its wrath. If you haven't encountered the EPC warning light as yet, then you are definitely one of the lucky ones, because I know of several VW Polo, Seat Ibiza,  VW Jetta, VW CC, Passat, Audi A3, Audi A6, Seat Leon and even Porsche owners with odometer readings as low as 1500 Kilometers, who got spooked by the EPC light when it first stuck. This EPC light is known to trigger instant panic and fear in many VAG car owner, and I don't blame them, since it can be a scary and dangerous experience, especially when the car goes into limp mode when you're overtaking or the engine just dies when exiting a freeway  off-ramp or when entering a highway on-ramp during peak hour traffic.  

Electronic Power Control

However, if you have no idea what an EPC light or an EPC fault is, nor why this warning light turns on, then you should do yourself a solid and continue reading. In a nutshell, the EPC warning light is a standard feature in all ODB-II compliant models of Volkswagen, SEAT, SKODA and Audi vehicles. Most of them, are fitted with 'drive-by-wire' technology, though neither are exclusive to VAG cars. And when I say VAG cars, I also mean  Porsche, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Ducati. Toyota, Honda, Ford, Mercedes also has it, in fact, virtually all cars manufactured post 1996  have an EPC warning light. EPC is an acronym for Electronic Power Control, and its a  warning light that resides inside the instrument cluster display.

EPC Light

Nonetheless, the EPC light is not all doom and gloom. It is there for a reason, and that reason is to safeguard the car and the engine from damage or destruction, especially considering what they cost to repair these days, let alone the cost to have an engine overhauled. Many people are under the misapprehension that the EPC light indicates an issue  with the cars  computerized system, whereas mechanics tend to echo that the EPC light indicates  a potential engine malfunction, though that's not strictly true either.  

MIL 

Before we continue, I just needed to add that when the engine malfunctions, it illuminates the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) aka Check engine light (CEL), which is indicative of  a computerized engine-management system malfunction. It even has an amber/orange icon of an engine, so as to draw your attention to the engine. Furthermore if this amber icon engine light is steadily illuminated, it indicates a minor engine fault but when it blinks it signifies a major engine fault. On the other hand, the EPC (Electronic Power Control) warning light  is a distinctly separate light from the MIL or CEL because it is related to a different function.

The more appropriate answer to 'What is an EPC light?' would be that the Electronic Power Control warning light, indicates a malfunction in your VW, Audi, SKODA or SEAT's  throttle control system, though once again that's also not totally accurate either.  So let me throw so light on the subject. The EPC light is in fact a diagnostic test light. So when the car's ignition is first switched on, the EPC light is illuminated for about three seconds. If there are no faults in the EPC system the light will automatically extinguish.

Drive by Wire

This three second time period is the duration of a self-diagnostic test. Effectively the Motronic ECM (J220) checks for malfunctions  in the Electronic Power Control (Torque system) accelerator system (drive-by-wire system), which includes the Throttle Body Drive Stepless Motor (G186) with its dual   independent Throttle Drive Angle Potentiometers (G187 & G188), the Accelerator Pedal Module with its dual independent Throttle Position Sensing Potentiometers (G79 &G185), the wiring harnesses that connects them all together and its associated sensor inputs from the Cruise Control  System, the Anti-lock Brake System (ABS), the Oxygen Sensor Control, the Automatic Transmission and the Air Conditioning System, etc. 

Charge Air Path

Here Air conditioning system mean all components involved in conditioning the air in the inlet manifold prior to combustion, implying the Throttle body / Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor G70 and not A/C as in HVAC.  That being said, the functionality of an Electronic Throttle Control (drive-by-wire system) can regulate the Charge Air Path far more accurately than a physical cable between the accelerator pedal and the throttle valve. 

NonVolatile Memory

This being the case, by the time the EPC light illuminates on the dashboard  in response to some sensor detecting a problem  whilst driving, the problem already occurred.  The  EPC warning is just a way to tell you that there  was a glitch in the EPC (drive by wire system) and generally remains lit until the fault is cleared. The EPC light is known as K132 and is turned on by the Motronic ECM by providing the Ground  connection that keeps the light burning. At the same time, a DTC is registered and stored in non-volatile memory for later inspection.

Limp Mode

So the key piece of equipment to solving any EPC problem or issue is a diagnostic scanner. The fault below shows that the brake light switch F was the culprit that caused the EPC fault. Bearing in mind, that the Cruise control get its cancellation signal from the brake light when the brake pedal is depressed. When a brake light is fused or the dual contact brake switch goes open circuit and can't provide the requisite signal, the cruise control cannot be cancelled. The ECM detects this condition and construes it as a safety issue and sends the car into limp mode. 

Fault Codes

Essentially the EPC circuit prevented an accident from happening. Implying the brakes would work but the engine would still run at high rev set by the cruise control, meaning the brakes would be ineffective to bring the car to a stop. For safety reasons the EPC system closes the throttle valve to a predetermined position the brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are depressed simultaneously. However if the ECU detects that the brake was depressed before the accelerator, then acceleration will be carried out. 

1 Fault Found:
16955 - Brake Switch (F) 
P0571 - 35-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

The fault below shows  that there is  an electrical malfunction in the Drive by Wire  circuit causing the EPC light to illuminate. After clearing the fault code, the EPC light just comes back on. The ECU was suspected and replaced but didn't solved the problem. It turned out that the  wiring harness between the ECU and the instrument cluster.

1 Fault Found:
18084 - EPC Warning Lamp (K132) Circuit: Electrical Malfunction 
P1676 - 35-00 - - 

The fault below  was on an Audi where signal from the Transmission  Control Module (TCM)  to the ECU was intermittent causing her to go into limp mode and idle really rough. Turned out that the TCM got wet from rain water that leaked into the carpets.  

1 Fault Found:
18265 - Load Signal: Error Message from ECU 
P1857 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent