VAG FUEL TRIM PROBLEMS

SHORT TERM FUEL TRIM ISSUES

Modern day OBD-II systems can be described as high-end electronic systems that "sort of" took the automotive industry by surprise. As such , there are so many motor mechanics that have not made the transition from technologies prevalent in older model cars to the technologies pervasive in newer model cars yet, and understandably some never will.  Several of these motor mechanics don't even own a scan tool and even fewer of them are able to interpret the DTCs and the results of a diagnostic scan. With the  result, that many VW owners took it upon themselves to become ODB-II savvy and even do their own automobile repairs. Many of whom have invested in low end scan tools like VAG COM, Actron, Nextech Carmen,  Foxwell, OBD Scan, Altar, etc, and others invested in high end scan tools like G-Scan, VCDS, Xtool, Launch, AutoHex, Autel and Auto Boss etc. Even though the VW service departments are equipt with the best diagnostic scan tools they tend to lack the technical personnel with the requisite expertise to understand them and effectively repair clients VW, Audi, SEAT and SKODA cars. Electronics has taken over the modern day car and being knowledgeable about electronics is key however not every car owner  is therefore not equipt to to analyse the diagnostic printout. As an example, lets take a look at the infamous VAG fuel trim problems list below. All of them very loudly shouts that the stoichiometric  ratio is off. Generic Short Term Fuel Trim (STFT) DTCs range from P0170- P0175 which are generic government required codes and Long Term Fuel Trim (LTFT) range from P1123-P1130, P1139-P1139,  P1151-P1152, P0166-P1167 and all are manufacturer specific.

SHORT TERM FUEL TRIM (STFT)

16554 - P0170 - Fuel Trim, Bank1 Malfunction
16555 - P0171 - Fuel Trim, Bank1 System too Lean
16556 - P0172 - Fuel Trim, Bank1 System too Rich
16557 - P0173 - Fuel Trim, Bank2 Malfunction
16558 - P0174 - Fuel Trim, Bank2 System too Lean
16559 - P0175 - Fuel Trim, Bank2 System too Rich

LONG TERM FUEL TRIM (LTFT)

17531 - P1123 - Long Term Fuel Trim Add.Air, Bank1 System too Rich
17532 - P1124 - Long Term Fuel Trim Add.Air, Bank1 System too Lean
17533 - P1125 - Long Term Fuel Trim Add.Air, Bank2 System too Rich
17534 - P1126 - Long Term Fuel Trim Add.Air, Bank2 System too Lean

17535 - P1127 - Long Term Fuel Trim mult, Bank1 System too Rich
17536 - P1128 - Long Term Fuel Trim mult, Bank1 System too Lean
17537 - P1129 - Long Term Fuel Trim mult, Bank2 System too Rich
17538 - P1130 - Long Term Fuel Trim mult, Bank2 System too Lean

17544 - P1136 - Long Term Fuel Trim Add.Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean
17545 - P1137 - Long Term Fuel Trim Add.Fuel, Bank2 System too Lean
17547 - P1139 - Long Term Fuel Trim Add.Fuel, Bank2 System too Rich

17559 - P1151 - Bank1, Long Term Fuel Trim, Range 1 Leanness Lower Limit Exceeded
17560 - P1152 - Bank1, Long Term Fuel Trim, Range 2 Leanness Lower Limit Exceeded

17573 - P1165 - Bank1, Long Term Fuel Trim, Range 1 Rich Limit Exceeded
17574 - P1166 - Bank1, Long Term Fuel Trim, Range 2 Rich Limit Exceeded

17582 - P1174 - Fuel Trim, Bank 1 Different injection times

THE DEFINITION OF A BANK

Before we continue, it is important to get certain definitions right. In 8 cylinder (W8) engines and 12 cylinder (W12) engines, 4 or 6 cylinders are staggered  aligned at a V-angle,  72 degrees in relation each other, thereby making the engine more compact.  Each staggered row of either 4 or 6 cylider has its own head,  which is called a "Bank",  hence Bank 1 and Bank 2. On the other hand VR6 engines cylinders are also staggered but has a single cylinder head, however the three left most side cylinders (odd numbers) are called "Bank 1" (passenger side left-hand drive) and the right most cylinders (even numbers) are called Bank 2. Four cylinder engines normally have 4 in-line cylinders but here as well, the odd cylinders are called Bank 1 and the even cylinders Bank 2 as can be seen in the "Chassic type: Skoda Fabia  1,2l/4V" below. But this configuration does apply to all 4 and 5 cylinders engines because in some engines all cylinders are referred to as bank 1. Looking at  the above P-Codes  P0170-P0175 it can clearly be seen that  P0107 refers to Bank 1 and is common to both  P0171 and P0172. And likewise P01703 refers to Bank 2 and is common to both  P01704 and P0175. This information allows us to determine which cylinder is bank is running rich or lean. Intermittent signals may be due to continuous STFT occurrences or the bad electrical connections at the o2 sensors. However, every time the engine is started the OBD-II system  does a self test on the O2 sensors,  and should the Check engine light not remain on, then the O2 sensor is probably not the culprit.

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Chassis Type: 6N - VW Polo
16554 - Fuel Trim: Malfunction: Bank 1
P0170 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Chassis Type: 6N - VW Polo
16555 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1: System Too Lean
P0171 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Chassis Type: 6Y - Skoda Fabia
16555 - Fuel Trim: System Too Lean: Bank 1
P0171 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Chassis Type: 3B - VW Passat B5
16555 - Fuel Trim: System Too Lean: Bank 1
P0171 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Chassis Type: 9N - VW Polo
16555 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1
P0171 - 35-10 - System Too Lean - Intermittent

Chassis Type: Audi 3.2
16556 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1
P0172 - 35-10 - System Too Rich - Intermittent

Chassic type: Skoda Fabia  1,2l/4V 
16557 - Fuel Trim: Malfunction: Bank 2
P0173 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Chassis Type: 6N - VW Polo
16556 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1
P0172 - 35-10 - System Too Rich - Intermittent

Chassis Type: 3B - VW Passat B5
16556 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1
P0172 - 35-10 - System Too Rich - Intermittent

Chassis Type: 1J - VW G/J/B Mk4
16556 - Fuel Trim: System Too Rich: Bank 1
P0172 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Chassis Type: 9N - VW Polo
16556 - Fuel Trim: System Too Rich: Bank 1
P0172 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Chassis Type: 6N - VW Polo 
16556 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1
 P0172 - 35-10 - System Too Rich - Intermittent

Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4 B5
16557 - Fuel Trim; Bank 2: system too lean
P0174 - System too Lean

Chassis Type: 4F0 - Audi A6 3.2L
16559 - Fuel Trim; Bank 2
P0175 - 007 - System Too Rich

Chassis Type: 4A - Audi 100/A6 C4
16559 - Fuel Trim: System Too Rich: Bank 2
P0175 - 35-00 - -
16556 - Fuel Trim: System Too Rich: Bank 1
P0172 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16557 - Fuel Trim: Malfunction: Bank 2
P0173 - 35-00 - -
16554 - Fuel Trim: Malfunction: Bank 1
P0170 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4 B5
16554 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1: Malfunction
P0170 - 92-00 - Unknown Error Elaboration
16554 - Fuel Trim, Bank 1
P0173 - 92-00 - Unknown Error Elaboration
17658 - Fuel Level too Low

Audi A4 B5 96 a4 2.8l
16558 - P0174 - Fuel Trim, Bank 2
P0174  - System too Lean  -detecting lean fuel in exhaust
16555 -  Fuel Trim, Bank 1
P0171  - System too Lean -- detecting lean fuel in exhaust
16554   Malfunction
P0170 - 35-10 - - - reached maximum amount of fuel adjustment
16557 - Fuel Trim; Bank 2
P0173 - Malfunction

Fuel Trim: System Too Rich means / Rich Mixture implying too much fuel, not sufficient air
Fuel Trim: System Too Lean means / Lean Mixture, implying too much air, not sufficient fuel

Correct combustion relies on an air/fuel mixture of 14.7 to 1 ratio. Meaning 14.7 parts air to every 1 part of fuel, but if  the air ratio dips below 14.7 parts, then the mixture is called  "rich", whereas when the air exceeds 14.7 parts, then the mixture it is called  "lean".  To keep the engine running properly, the Engine Control Module measures the oxygen content in the exhaust emissions with the oxygen (O2) sensors in the exhaust system and makes adjustments to the mixture by injecting more or less fuel. The ECU is capable of keeping the STFT air/fuel mix within  specific parameters under normal conditions, and is based on input signals  from the Barometric Pressure Sensor and the Oxygen Sensor and will make minor adjustments to the air/fuel mixture. However when these adjustments it makes exceed a internally stored predetermined level, it sets  a fault code. When DTC P0171 and P0174 are triggered, the oxygen sensors are detecting too much oxygen in the exhaust fumes instructing the ECU to add more fuel in order to maintain a correct  air/fuel mixture.  But when DTC P0172 and P0173 are triggered the reverse is implemented. When DTC P0170 and P0173 are triggered the ECU is unable to compensate for the errors and uses an internally generate signal as compensation.  The main causes of STFT DTCs are due to leaking vacuum  hoses or a poorly functioning  Mass Air Flow Sensor sensing too little air or a faulty Barometric Pressure sensor or insufficient Fuel Pump pressure. Functionality of all these sensors can be checked by verifying there scan data before attempting to replace them. Cleaning the MAF wire with electro cleaner may help but take care not to damage it. Symptoms of STFT DTC may cause the EPC light to come on, make the car go into limp mode, stall, hesitate before acceleration, idle unevenly, backfire and refuse to idle. LTFT will be dealt with in future blog.

EPC Q & A

EPC Q & A

So many Audi, VW, SKODA and SEAT owner are having EPC light nightmares. Sending their vehicles for EPC repair which are often misdiagnosed, costly, ineffective and futile because most mechanical repair personal are not electronically trained hence have no idea of  digital logic and isolation procedures.  Modern cars are strewn with sensors and actuators, network buses, electronic control modules driven by software. To quote a line in Turks and Caicos which goes something like this "... everything changes. I used to be able to take a wrench and get under my car's bonnet and fix my car. Now you need a degree in electronics. Even easy things are difficult now." Replacing automotive components does not have to turn into a 'wild goose chase' where guess work is based on trial and error which now has become the order of the day.  That approach just scares everyone. Upload the diagnostic scan of your car now, so that I can analyse for you before you go ahead and buy expensive parts only to find out that the DTC was incorrectly interpreted.

Question?

I'm Lorraine from long beach. I don't know who you are but you are a God to me. I've been searching the web for months for specific and in-depth information on the "death light" (EPC) appearing on my '99 Volkswagen  Beetle. I have studied your entire blog and will now have a very interesting conversation with my German Car mechanic on how he can detect once and for all the problem. Already $1,000 in with no results. Thank you. I hope I don't have to sell the car just yet (to whom, I have no idea) throttle body replaced-twice so far-but hmm that Cam Bus section is interesting. My radio went into Safe Mode months ago and then spontaneously came back on (we do not have the code) so maybe we should check that path out as well. Again thank you.

Answer!

Hi Lorraine, since you don't say much about the specific problem that you are having other than the "death light" (EPC) appearing on my '99 Beetle, I really can't comment on it. However since it is EPC related, your problem has something to do with fuel delivery and engine torque electronics. Bear in mind that your fuel is under pressure from the tank to the injectors and that the ECU receives inputs from the various pressure sensors. If any of these pressures are below spec, it can trigger an EPC problem. For example, if your fuel cap does not seal properly the low fuel pressure sensor G410 will send a error signal to the ECU which can trigger an EPC fault. Likewise if the fuel regulator sensor cannot equilize the fuel pressure from the high-pressure fuel system it will trigger an EPC fault. Suppose If you were driving on an incline like an on-ramp to a bridge and didn't gear down sufficiently for you Beetle to swiftly climb with ease, the likely hood is that detonation would occur. If this happens, the knock sensors would inform the ECU which translate detonation as insufficient torque and trigger the EPC circuit - limp mode and EPC light. There are several other EPC possibilities but without a diagnostic scan it is difficult to pin point the problem.

Question?

Anonymous. I have a '07 Polo 1.4 16v BUD. I don't have any lights on the dash, but the engine seems really weak through mid revs and is using a bit too much fuel. When I hook up my OBDII there are no faults recorded but when i view the throttle position in real time it doesn't seem to open in a linear manner. As I press the pedal on the road, the throttle valve seems to open slower than the position of the pedal. eg; 50% pedal = 30% throttle position, 80% pedal = 35% throttle, 95% pedal = 40% throttle, 100% Pedal = 100% throttle. As you can see WOT does give WOT at the throttle body, but I don't generally drive with my foot planted on the floor. I am confused why it does this as you would expect the throttle body to open the same amount as the pedal, could it need alignment? I am loathed to take it to the VW dealer for fault diagno$i$ so if anyone has any ideas???? Thanks

Answer!

Hi there. Since you don't have  diagnostic scan its difficult to help you however, the mere fact that you don't have dash light makes it very obviously that you have electrical problems or wiring harness problems. And since your scan tool didn't find any DTCs, further proves that this is the case. The dashboard is normally directly connected to the OBD port in the driver's cockpit and since you have no dash lights you most likely have missing voltages on the OBD port which is most likely needed to perform a proper and correct diagnostic scan. Check your fuses on the terminal 30 line and the relay that supplies the terminal 15  supply line. Once you've exhausted everything else, as a last resort your dash control module could be faulty. Anyway, the acceleration peculiarity that you are describing probably has nothing to do with the dash electronics. Since you car has drive by wire, which is totally electronic (not throttle cable), torque is determined by the ECU which will open the throttle valve logarithmically based on its load and terrain, thus there is no physical correlation between the accelerator pedal and the throttle valve. So, no I don't think it needs alignment but seeing you have an OBD-II scanner, its quite simple for you to just redo the adaptation (described in a previous blog) and take consolation in the fact that you have eliminated it as a problem.

Question?

Hi I have a problem with EPC it came on since yesterday, am worried please help.

Answer!

My friend, you really not giving me much to work with here. But I suggest that read through my blogs pages related to EPC, torque, drive by wire, accelerator pedal sensors, knock sensors,  throttle adaptation, engine RPM sensor, etc. Perhaps if would shed some light on your EPC problem. Remember that EPC problems are related to what the car was doing at the time the light came on. for example, spirited driving / towing / start stop peak hour traffic, etc, Anyway the best way to find blog pages relating to your EPC problem , is to type your search word (EPC / drive by wire, etc) in the search box I provided in the top left hand corner on the first page of my site and click on the miniature magnifying glass to run the search. Happy searching.

Question?

Hi everyone, I would really appreciate some advice from you all. I have a 2002 (52) Ibiza 1.4 Sport (100bph), and have some issues with it. Background: Since day 1 it has occasionally thrown up an EPC warning light, followed by an engine electrics light. They would go away after a day and not return for several months. I had the logs read by a Seat dealer during a service and they said it had shown an intermittent Lambda filter error, and that it would cost £240+ to fit a new one. I passed. Over the last month, this has become an every day occurrence. The EPC light will come on seemingly as I just try to pull away from stationary. The car sometimes (half the time) notably stutters when this happens, then pulls away normally. If I restart the engine, most times the EPC light will go off, but the engine light will stay on. Then, more weirdly, the car has started occasionally stalling at random. No judder, no rough idling, I'll be slowing down towards a roundabout or into traffic, and whilst idling (coasting on the clutch) as I slow down, I'll notice the battery light come on, and the power drop out. Once, the battery light came on, but I was able to rev the engine up and it recovered - the battery light then went out. Mostly, I need to restart the engine though. I took it to a garage called Vee Ws for its annual service yesterday and asked them to look into it as well. They went with a cautious (on my finances) approach, and said they'd do the full service and that hopefully that on its own might rectify some of the issues. After the service, they said the logs showed some intermittent issues but nothing serious. They reset the onboard computer to its basic/default settings and said they hoped that would sort it. They also said they noticed the throttle body was pretty dirty (done 71,000 miles), and that if the service doesn't sort it, that they would try to clean that up and see if it did the job. Anyway, 10 minutes after I pulled away from the garage, the lights came back on and today the stalling re-occurred. I feel like this could turn into one of those 'wild goose chases' where its a case of trial and error, replacing different parts to see if it works. This scares me greatly! Has anyone experienced any similar symptoms, or would anyone recommend going to a proper Seat Dealership/Services team to take a look? I wonder if maybe they may be more likely to find the underlying fault? Having said that, I've always found Vee Ws in Bristolonia competent and most importantly, cost-effective. It may be possible to ask them to try and source used-parts while they try different 'fixes'.. Thanks for any advice, Jamie

Answer!

Hi Jamie,  the fact that your SEAT occasionally throws up an EPC warning light, as well as  the engine electrics light, says that your problem is more likely emission related, hence your intermittent Lambda error. Normally only torque and fuel related problems triggers the EPC light, meaning the engine light doesn't come on. Engine light only comes on with emission related issues.  Considering the age of your car it is possible that the Oxygen censor could be glazed over (end of life) or its wiring connector could be intermittent. The oxygen sensor is a feedback mechanism that instructs the ECU to increase or decrease the fuel supply hence shuddering. But this may not be definite. Without a diagnostic scan, I  am more inclined to say it could be your throttle body sensors not only because your service agent said it was dirty but because of the stalling and stutters on pull away. This seems like the throttle valve isn't providing an adequate air supply when its needed. However if they serviced your SEAT and did the adaptation as they said they did, then its unlikely the throttle body else adaptation would have failed, even though they said its dirty. So its more likely to be your accelerator pedal sensors. I mention this because  the car switches off when you decelerate, implying while your foot was on the accelerator it was OK but by taking your foot off the accelerator the condition changed and the ECU picked of this which could be due to 1 or both intermittent potentiometers. When you initially start the car  the ECU does a self-test by switching on all dashboard lights and if no problems are detected turns them all off. So when you start and the EPC light turns off, at that specific point in time there is no problem, but half way through acceleration while driving the problem is detected and the ECU switches he car off. Intermittent DTCs that do not reoccur during four driving cycles, are automatically deleted from the system which explains why the EPC light goes out after a day or so and doesn't show up months later. Lets have a diagnostic scan and I will have another crack at analyzing your problem.

VW POLO - EPC LIGHT

EPC LIGHT 

Yesterday my VW Polo just wouldn't start, the engine cranked, but sounded as if it didn't crank fast enough in order to start. A good few hundred bucks later for a new battery, she started just fine. I suppose after four years, one should expect a battery to give up the ghost.  I thought it was just peculiar that it died without any prior warning, without lazy cranking or dim headlights or a croaky hooter. Anyway, this morning when I started my VW Polo Highline she had some really serious issues. It just wouldn't rev-up. When I looked at the instrument panel, the amber EPC warning light  was lit-up yet she idled perfectly normal. The moment I accelerated there was no power, but could only rev to 1200 rpm, it kinda seemed like fuel starvation. 

Only when  I revved; it seemed like there just wasn't enough fuel available, it sort of smothered. The  Amber / yellow EPC light on the dashboard is normally on when I turn on the car's ignition, as can be seen below, but the moment she starts, the EPC warning light goes off, or resets the EPC light on a Polo, which was perfectly normal as far as was  concerned.

I experienced this yellow EPC light issue once before, or at least something very similar a few months ago. I was driving through Melkbos Strand with my VW Polo, traveling at about 100kmph. As I passed a high school where some dudes were playing  soccer. The very next thing I saw, was their soccer ball coming over the school fence, it hit the road, bounced a few times  and  rolled directly towards the front of the car. There was no way I was going to swerve to avoid striking the ball because the pavements were like really high and I didn't want to damage my magwheels. There was also an oncoming car approaching from the opposite direction, so I couldn't even cross lanes to avoid it,  I just had to go over the ball. By this time, I had already reduced my speed to about 40Kmph. Somehow the ball got jammed between the undercarriage (sump / front suspension) of the Polo and the road. Instead of it rolling, I could hear it chafing along the asphalt. Then the ball suddenly burst with a tremendously loud explosion.

Immediately the EPC light came on, and there was no power. The car just rolled forward until it came to a halt. My foot on the accelerator had no effect. I tried revving the engine but to no avail, it just wouldn't rev. So I switched it off. A few seconds later I started the car and it started just fine but the EPC light stayed on and now, it at least revved to 1200 RPM. I needed to get off the road or at least to the nearest filling station / garage workshop. So I drove very slowly and even when I tried to go faster the car just wasn't going to go faster that 10kpm, even with my foot flat on the accelerator. Eventually... I arrived at the filling station, switched off the engine and popped the bonnet. I saw my air conditioner condenser was hanging skew. The explosion of the ball  under the condenser broke the plastic lugs that was screwed to the body. The screws were still in the lugs but the condenser was hanging out below my front bumper. So I went and  bought some cable ties at the local supermarket and re-secured the condenser as a temporary measure.

I then restarted the car. The EPC light was still on, so I borrowed a spanner at the filling station and disconnected the battery. Since the Polo was all electronic, I figured it would be equivalent to a computer cold reboot when I reconnected. So, after a few moments I reconnected the battery and started the car. The EPC light was off and I could rev the car as normal. I was so chuffed because I could see myself driving home, all of  the 70km distance at 10kpm. When I concluded my business in Melkbos, I was on my way home, about 5km from Melbos Strand when suddenly the EPC light come on again, and once more there was no power. Even with the accelerator pushed-in all the way to the floor, I was still just getting 10kpm. I came to a halt, disconnected the battery for the second time then reconnected it after like 2 minutes, which seemed to have cleared the problem and the engine revved just fine.  For the rest of the day the Volkswagen Polo behaved.

The graphic below shows all the dashboard lights amongst which are the Trailer towing mode indicator light, the Electro-hydraulic power steering malfunctions light, the Fog-lights operation light, the Rear seat lock warning light, the Cruise control light, the Unauthorized key electronic immobilizer continuous flashing light.

What I came to discover later, is that there are 2 knock sensors placed at strategic positions in the engine block, 1 per 2 cylinders. So, any engine noise louder than the knock sensor's preset decibel level, will activate them. This in turn  triggers the Engine Control Module (ECU) which then cuts the power via ODB II  CAN Bus, thus saving the engine from further mechanical damage. However, in my case this wasn't engine trouble but rather an external factor with the same result. The knock sensor or sensors picked up the loud bang of the bursting ball and interpreted it as coming from the engine.  That's artificial intelligence for you. What I came to understand much later is that Knock sensor K1 caused the EPC light to come on whereas K2 causes the MIL to come on. If both your EPC and MIL is on it could be K1 and K2 related but this should be determined in conjunction with the DTC which can be read with a scan tool from the non-volatile memory of the ECU. My problem turned out to be the potentiometers on the accelerator pedal that was intermittent. I replaced the accelerator pedal and I've never seen that pesky EPC light again.

FURTHER READING

NB!
If you wish to understand how the knock sensor and the  EPC light circuits works, read some of my other pages like KNOCK SENSOR, DRIVE-by-WIRE, KNOCK SENSORS   EPC EXPLAINED and  EPC EXPOSED, EPC REVISITED or EPC DEMYSTIFIED PART 1, PART 2 and PART 3

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